someone should create an anti gun policing force that gets rented by cities/states

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    You would need a constitutional amendment for that. But I would be so down.
     
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    Not really. There is no language in the constitution that prohibits any state from leaving the union. Ergo, any state may leave when and if it chooses to do so.
     
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    The supreme court ruled on that, plus the US set a precedent that it will invade any state that leaves so yes we need an amendment, the constitution also does not prohibit states form banning guns but here we are.

    Also the 14th amendment says all public official can not lead rebellion.
     
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    Oh goodie! You can cite the language in the constitution that prohibits any state from leaving the union.
     
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    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
     
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    Insurrection or rebellion. Yeah. But what about just leaving?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Rebellion is leaving, "I'm not going to follow your rules anymore"
     
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    Exiting a treaty is not any kind of rebellion.
     
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    You have the same rights as as any felon or drug dealer.....the nra has seen to that. You can all buy guns privately without a background check.
     
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    You can take any weapon in the possession of anyone while under arrest but only make it illegal for them to buy a gun while awaiting trial and after after a conviction. But at no time does a federal law require anyone to have a background check when buying a gun privately, convicted felon, awaiting trial or not. No one is ever required to prove they are not a convicted felon. A car operator is required to prove he is a lawful driver but a convicted felon is not required to prove he can’t buy a gun illegally.
     
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    Ha ha
    That’s laughably inconceivable and far from being “simple”.
    In the poorer gunaholic red states, trying to succeed would mean giving up federal aid for which many of these states are famous for collecting.

    They would also lose many manufacturing jobs as companies can’t locate in now foreign entities without protection from the fed in exporting their goods. They become susceptible to tariffs they were designed to avoid.

    They lose protection from interstate related law suits in a myriad of ways the fed protects them from including interstate commerce conflicts and infrastructure funding. You think mississippi can afford to take over interstate commerce oversight, lose infrastructure grant funds and take over all highway maintenance costs on their own ?

    Laughable. Just losing Medicaid funding alone would mean a revolt of the old delusional conservative farts who live and breathe faux news but luv their federal Co funded entitlements. So, the fbi moves all its offices out of the states that succeed and law enforcement locally goes back to Andy of Mayberry. You gunaholics are delusional and transparently uninformed.
     
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    Everything is govt sanctioned according to you. The nra has been controlling federal and state govts for decades with its pac contributions. HTF can you get govt. approval for any multi-state effort at gun control without federal involvement. Maybe your heart is in the right place but your head is in Texas, the delusional capital of the world.
     
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    Cities and states can’t just Ban firearms at will. Their gun laws need to be federally consistent. That means, they can regulate if laws are administered properly.....regulation is the key, not banning.
     
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    Yes, it does. "Shall Not Be Infringed" is pretty ****ing clear; but read the words of the Founders if you're still confused.
     
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    I have the same right as any American citizen under the Constitution. Again, your vile denigrations and insinuations reveal the irrationality inherent to your position.
     
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    The federal constitution only applied to the federal government unless is specifically prohibited the states. It was not until the supreme court took the 14th amendment out of its intended use and started using it to rule on everything.
     
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    The states ratified the Constitution and joined the Union based upon their support of the protections of people's rights intrinsic to the Constitution. It was the lawyers and the totalitarians that have tried to muddy that simple truth to push agendas. You are guilty of the same.
     
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    One of the reasons for the passage of the fourteenth amendment after the civil war, was due to states prohibiting freed black slaves from enjoying legal firearms ownership.
     
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    Nope, it was to guarantee, peoples rights to enter into contracts, be treated equally under state law, grant citizenship to former slaves and to guarantee due process aka the 5th amendment
     
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    Part of being treated equally under the law pertained to freed black slaves being able to legally purchase, own, carry, and use firearms.
     
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    More woo woo. You’re wrong. EVERY SUPREME COURT DECISION, including a Heller, has said anyone ( including Heller) must QUALIFY to be ELIGIBLE for his second an amendment rights. None are absolute. Yes, regulation and requiring proof of ELIGIBILITY is backed in every SC decision. Yet, you persist in being totally delusional. Reading the written word requires you read all the words, not select a chosen few.
    Your replies are too trite to be taken seriously.
     
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    Drama queens are out in full force I see.
     
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    The phrase "not absolute" does not amount to being next to nonexistent, however.
     
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    Unintelligible.
     
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    Which is why you are replying to them.
     

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