Graham on why Dem Party 'turned its back on God'

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  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    And you know that Trump still does the things he did earlier in his life? God has taken people who have done bad things and changed their lives and they have then done great things.
     
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    Dems just want to harvest aborted baby organs, like their Chinese masters do.
     
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    Trump pays lip service to religion - nothing more.
     
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    And yet you support a sinner in Trump, who cheated on all of his wives. You fool nobody with this fake moral outrage crap.
     
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    What gift? A sinner who is president?
     
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    He still lies.

    Pretty much every day.
     
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    Your baby organ claim isn’t worth responding to but you are right about the Chinese except you should add they exectute citzens with the specific purpose of using organs for transplants. Usually for high ranking party officials.
    If the west has any moral compass we’d refuse to traid with the bastards.
     
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    It's definitely the sign of a high functioning society, this rush to speak for God 24/7.
     
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    Ah! Republican Jesus

    So many memes so few threads to post them on!

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    Present day Evangelical Christianity has totally divorced itself from what used to be its own morals to become a completely political organisation much like the Taliban and other Islamic fundamentalists. I await the day these two realize how much they now have in common with some trepidation
     
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    Our supply side deity

     
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    Thats cause its true.



     
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    STINKING rotten EVIL hypocrites, give Trump a TOTAL indulgence, to act as EVIL and ****ing hateful as he likes, and they will worship him. They are READY for an antichrist.
     
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    Maybe they’ve already found him in the Whitehouse?
     
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    Do you have any evidence that people stop being religious because they don't want to feel guilty for their sins instead of just lacking any reason to believe in the theology to begin with? Without evidence for your theory your OP is just a thinly veined ad hominem fallacy.
     
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    There are several unjustified assumptions in your post.
    1: When pointing the finger at so called ‘anti-christian policies’ the diversity of theological viewpoints reflected in the many kinds of ‘christianity’ need to be taken into account. Take for instance the differences manifest between Rome and the Quakers. Some would claim Quakers aren’t christian but given my understanding of the New Testament (keeping in mind the vast array of versions , their mistranslations, expurgations etc over the centuries) Rome can be described as the least Christian of all the various divisions within that religion.
    2: Politicians ‘don’t want God in any part of their politics’? Again we need to ask which version of God you’re referencing. Instance, the God of the Old Testament or the God of the New Testament? You also need to face the fact several presidential candidates this time around describe themselves as Christian. Pete Buttigieg comes to mind but maybe you imagine the Episcopalianism church he belongs to is heretic? My view is his understanding of the gospels is closer to what Christ taught than most of what’s preached from any number of pulpits today. If you’re unfamiliar with the strain of Episcopalian theology I’m referencing a reading of John Shelby Spong’s “The Sins of Scripture: Exposing the Bible’s Texts of Hate to Reveal the God of Love” (Publ ‘ Harper Collins) might be revealing.
    3: People ‘hate feeling guilty for their sins’? Christian apologetics long ago provided a way out of that one by teaching sin can be blamed on the influence of Satan, not on anything innate in the sinners soul. Too easy.
    4: Actively ‘excluding him’ from their oath taking, conventions and the words of their leaders’? Apart from being factually incorrect in a number of cases (See point 3 above) the long established principal of the separation of Church and State in the US and other western nations if rejected has the power to take us back to the dark ages when church and state acting as a single entity got up to some very nasty tricks such as burning ‘unbelievers’ at the stake and the tortures of the Spanish Inquisition. If you imagine that’ example so far away in history it’s doesn’t matter consider State legislation just passed in the US that criminalises abortion even if the accused became pregnant through rape.

    Off topic maybe but when discussing sin when will Rome confess the sin of the Spanish Inquisition? Do they pretend it had nothing to do with them, didn’t happen or was actually morally justifiable according to their interpretation of scripture?
     
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