Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

It's not a "growth" on her or part of her. The life in the womb is a separate human life, a separate human being, the unborn baby in the womb. Who are you to say it's OK to kill that innocent baby?

 

And no one opposes abortion when it is that extremely rare incident that the mothers life is in imminent danger. Like in wartime when we kill the enemy and not arbitrary but governed by the laws of war.

 

They can be for any reason and the left is trying to make sure there are NO restrictions at all even after birth. And that is what you and others don't realize here or just refuse to accept. THAT is why the several states have just passed extreme laws banning abortion. The left has driven this move to get it before the SCOTUS as quickly as possible. These laws were passed so that they would be immediately challenged and set that process in motion.

 

Yes and I certainly don't find a justification to kill the baby in the womb because the mother is constipated. I'm quite sure a doctor can manage her constipation quite effectively.

 

We protect women by not allowing Republicans to repress them by making them second class citizens. We are generally against repression, Republicans are for it, seeing it as government's main purpose.

 

He does. It's his sperm... he owns it.

 

Only tin-foil hat folk claim there are no restrictions after birth. They seem claim that all doctors stand around in hockey masks with chain saws just waiting for new born infants to appear. Complete bat-crap crazy talk.

And we already have over 50 years of experience with anti-abortion laws. They didn't work in the past, and that was a time when the entire nation was more conservative - it's complete lunacy to think they will work now.

 

No question there. These laws were passed to utilize a conservative court and allow you to put repressive laws into place. Your next step will be to outlaw women going over State lines, (like's already being done in Missouri or Georgia) and then making Abortion clinics illegal in every state as they undermine anti-abortion efforts, All this while using huge Church controlled lobbies to bulldoze small and easily controlled State legislatures everywhere to make abortions completely illegal.

 

They work fine if the purpose is to punish women for having sex.

 

Yes, , pregnancy is more manageable then it was a century ago( although the US does have a HIGH maternal death rate)

BUT they can't change what pregnancy entails for ALL women:

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• 
  
• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:

• 
  
• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

THAT is what the Anti-Choicers in Alabama WANT to FORCE women to endure EVEN THO GETTING PREGNANT IS NOT A CRIME!!!!!!


Now, please don't do the asinine thing other Anti-Choicers have done and go through the whole list and pick out "stretch marks' or any other SINGLE effect as the only side effect of pregnancy, that would be quite stupid.

There, I helped you with the honest UNcherry picked post of mine you quoted


Do you REALLY think that if you bring up constipation no one will notice everything else? or that all the other effects will disappear?

How did you come to that conclusion???

 

Banning abortion means ALL regulation is off.

Women getting secret abortions can do anything at any time....

 

Fine, let's cut that umbilical cord and take it out if the mother doesn't want it.

A wart is made of human cells and given modern cloning techniques can be cloned into a functional human being. Quick! Arrest that woman, she just bought a bottle of Compound W.

 

Hmmm.. First. Shapiro is lost in metaphysics. His whole argument rests on "Consciousness" before "Existence", the God fallacy; which causes him many errors in his epistemology, including his view of altruism, capitalism, selfishness, and free will; which leads him to equate the "might be" with the "is'.

You can not defend capitalism, liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness, based on a delusional belief of an omnipresence, omnipotent, omniscient. mystical entity. You must appeal to reason, and despite his lip service to reason, he is fundamentally anchored to mysticism.

This makes his stance on abortion, absurd. Why? Because of the law of identity and causality, i.e., that "which is not" can never overrule "that which is", a "potential" has no reality above an "actual".

https://newideal.aynrand.org/abortion-allows-women-to-protect-whats-sacred-about-life/

This whole debate about abortion is really a philosophical one between reason and faith, liberty and religious tyranny, free will and God's plan. It all depends on one fundamental belief: Is reality objective or a subjective delusion.

Let each answer for themselves, and live by their answer, and reap what they sow, to quote a popular biblical truism.

And lastly, abortion is a medical procedure performed to prevent the birth of a baby. As it is only a woman who can give birth; it is only she who has the right to decide, not her lover, not her friends, not her family, not her minister, priest, rabbi, or Iman, and most certainly, not her fellow citizens using the power of the government's gun.

 

The definition of abort: To stop before completion. It's that simple. If it isn't completed, then it doesn't come into being. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

If human DNA makes you a baby, here's a baby picture. Ooh. Its so cute.



Science please, not "witch-doctory" psycho-babble.

 

The part where it talks about wasting sperm.
Google it if you must.

 

Not sure what democrats have to do with wasting sperm.

 

Why have the Democrats avoided making abortions a code of law federally at least.?
They want it so much, they could in the past 46 years drawn up a law and ended the discussion.

 

You said it as well as you can say it.

 

I get it now. Women are second class mothers. Why didn't somebody admit this before?

 

You can maim the enemy, blow limbs off, blast eyes away but one must never place a towel on their face and drip water on them. Quirky part of law.

 

As usual, what you think, isn't reality.
I have posted many times in this and many other abortion threads.
We have a definition for end of life, we can use same definition for beginning of life. As a general rule.

Other factors will come into play, such as mother's health, fetus health, and many others.
A pregnant person, her doctor, and often times, a significant other are all that need to be involved in such a personal decision that is likely very very emotional.

 

Those are lines in the sand.
As wasting sperm on the sheets is a line in the sand.
As waiting for brain activity is a line in the sand.

If truly a christian, and truly concerned about human life, you would be against murdering potential human life.
As you should have seen by know, sperm is very much alive and human sperm is a human life.

 

Christian belief and Christian words in the bible are on topic.
I understand, it's not something christians will want to talk about.
Just like they don't want to talk about adultery, but will take ad nauseum about gays.
And adultery is far far greater in our world than gays sex.

 

fetus
noun
fe·tus | \ ˈfē-təs \
Definition of fetus


: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kindspecifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth— compare EMBRYO sense 1a
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus

Now dictionaries are liberals to cons? This is getting hilarious at all these things that are liberals.