BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Please do not make troll posts this thread.
     
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    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Sorta ... but not. Rosenstein reiterated his previous testimony, which you cited. I went with the most recent, because Rosenstein who pledged to report any interference or obstruction by Trump to congress had the opportunity, and obligation to tell congress that Trump tried to obstruct through McGahn citing phony conflicts, if indeed that's what happened.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    I did not say that Trump couldn't fire him because his subordinates refused his order. I said that Trump's efforts to obstruct justice were largely unsuccessful specifically because his subordinates refused to carry out his orders.
     
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    No he didn't. He said he didn't draw any conclusions because the President couldn't be indicted. Lawrence Walsh didn't indict or suggest indictment, but he drew conclusions. Ken Starr didn't indict or suggest indictment, but he drew conclusions. And both laid out the evidence they had to do so.

    Robert Mueller had 1.4 million documents to inspect, interviewed 500+ people, had spent somewhere between 30 and 40 million dollars, and he couldn't come to a conclusion? Give me a break.

    Mueller's intention was to get President Trump, and when he failed to do so, he just poured gasoline on the fire so the Democrats had ammo, however phony, to keep up their witch hunt. It was despicable, unconscionable, indefensible.
     
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    I don't understand how he gets to make those demands.. This guy should've been the first guy to testify
     
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    I can certainly see that strategy, but I'm not sure it flies... slow rolling impeachment will drive Trump insane and keep the possibility in the news for 18 more months, but I think it's more important to officially open the impeachment hearings as I believe it will be harder for witnesses to duck from appearing, as they are doing today... The status quo is not acceptable. If they can get witnesses to appear without formal hearings, that's great, but it's not going to happen.
     
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    That grand theft auto dude had built a public career on finding nothing criminal with which to charge Hillary Clinton.

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    Oh yeah I'm certain most won't see it as a political witch hunt. It's a risk to say we should impeach but we won't because we want to investigate. Brilliant.
     
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    Trump's orders to McGahn were to have Rosenstein do his job and determine if Mueller's conflicts disqualified him. Though McGahn refused that order Rosenstein did review the conflicts, concluded they did not disqualify Mueller, and that settled it.
     
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    Obviously. And Agreed.

    Everyone has known that for months.

    Thanks for the 3rd Grade Civics Lesson.:bored:
     
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    Impeachment is divisive to the country and there is no reason to pursue impeachment unless Republicans agree that impeachment is the proper course of action.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well for openers, it was to see if you can dialogue when you are not making the charges.
     
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    Zimmerman?

    I don’t recall seeing his name in the Mueller Report. How did he get into this?

    Moreover, what does he have to do with anything?

    The President of the United States is a criminal.
     
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    The DOJ had already reviewed Mueller for any conflicts, deemed him conflict free, well and looong before Trump ordered him fired because of his own idiotic interpretations of conflicts.
     
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    She wants to run again. She needs material for 'What Happened' Volume 2!!

     
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    Hence ... "reiterated" . But right, same question, same answer, same opportunity to report any efforts to obstruct by removing Mueller.
     
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    Sure I can.

    Question: Of the investigation into Hillary Clinton, how many resulted in indictments?
     
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    I happen to fully disagree with the OLC opinion, but I'm not going to blame Mueller for following it...
     
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    In your head that may make sense, in most peoples nonpartisan's head they think if Trump wanted to really fire someone he most certainly would so it makes zero sense that he wanted him fired but he wasn't fired. You and your party have raked him over the coals for firing cabinet people for goodness sake but now going to claim he wanted to but didn't because somebody didn't follow orders and he was to much of a wimp to follow through. Good luck with that.
     
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    Holy ****!
    That's never happened before
     
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    He told the public it was not possible.

     
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    Some of the reason to slow roll the investigation is to bring the appearance of legitimate investigation and not partisan politics once the freshman members of Congress started throwing the word impeachment on every news the cats out of the bag with slow rolling and appearing like your main motivation isnt partisan
     
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    As many as for Trump. Mueller cleared Trump + his team. Page 5 of his part 1 of 2 report.
     
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    I have every bit of confidence that most Americans agree that Trump wanted Mueller to be fired, but also wanted to protect himself by getting others to do it for him and to provide him the public justification.
     
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    No. I mean in total. Every person that could remotely be connected to the Clinton Investigation. How many indictments?

    For the Mueller investigation, there were 33 indictments on individuals and 3 indictments against corporations.
     

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