Campus Crusade Against Christianity

fake news, they are not supporting discrimination of LGBT students.. that is not a crusade against Christians

anymore then stopping a Christian like Trump that thinks he is sin free stoning someone from the LGBT would be an attack on Christianity

"Oklahoma GOP candidate: Stoning gays the ‘right’ thing to do"

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/gop-candidate-stone-gay-people

 

Satanic worshippers, for sure.

https://www.hrc.org/blog/10-shocking-facts-about-the-alliance-defending-freedom

 

How petty.

I know a bit about education- as I have taught special skills, mental skills as well as technical ones, at both college level and corporate settings. Fortune 500 managers, psychologists, doctors- as well as everyday people in my classes. I've also had a PhD in my employ some years back, who was to say the least educated to the level of saturation. He was a warehouse janitor, living at home with parents at age 38. As an old friend of mine used to say- too many people "let their book-learnin' get in the way of their education."

Your argument reeks of the arrogance of people who think knowledge and understanding are the same thing. Of those who think that a diploma is the same as competence and expertise. Know a lot, can't actually do anything useful with it but argue anyway. Rudeness and insults are the weak person's imitation of strength. Make fools of themselves doing it.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you know how to conduct yourself better- if you tried.

 

One can also see why some might consider SPLC a hate group.

No need, since at face value there is nothing hateful about three of them, the sterilization deal being iffy.

 

They get Federal money loans, grants and tax protection as a non-profit they have to abide by common protections and religious belief is protected in the US Constitution and people should be able to work for organizations that fit religious morality, they have good lawyers, so hope they like being sued the first time they discriminate based on ones religious moral beliefs. As for a hate group traditional Christianity is opposed to homosexuality and so is by its definition going to be seen at 'hateful' while more progressive Christians are not thinking that way but I will add Jews (very conservative) and Muslims oppose homosexuality. I wouldn't declare it illegal secularly but one can't force people to tolerate things they refuse to accept people have to be free to not like people.

 

If you kept your beliefs in your home and house of worship, there'd be no issue as far as I'm concerned.

 

The free exercise there of of religious belief extends to every aspect of of a believers life. The free expression of religious speech is also not limited to just home and church. Just because you hear a message on radio or tv or a street corner and just because you see a believer acting their belief in their own personal day to day life doesn’t mean they are forcing their beliefs upon you.

 

If a Satanic group were to gather in front of your house of worship and preach their beliefs to people coming and going from your church, would that be an issue for you?

 

As long as they stayed on the public sidewalk or street and not enter the private property of the church it would be legal and I’d simply watch them being there when I drive into and leave the parking lot before and after.

 

No one is telling them what to think or believe, just that if you want to do business you have to treat everyone of your customers the same way. You can think they are vile and you can pray that they rot in hell. I am sure their grandparents didn't want blacks to use their bathrooms either. The gays can have someone else make their cake, or the blacks could eat at their own place.

 

Oddly, that sounds like you forcing your view down my throat.

 

Actually there is a right to have an abortion or to get an Rx for some forms of birth control.Yet those seeking the procedure or the Rx can’t just demand that anyone provide it. No one can be coerced into performing an abortion and no one should be coerced into planning, creating photographs or floral arrangements or a cake or an artful invitation to a gay wedding either if it violates their conscience to do so.

 

And if they were there weeks on end it wouldn't be an issue with you?

 

Not really, you chose to read my posting; no one forced you to.

 

Doesn't our CONSTITUTION prohibit the promotion of any religion????

 

There aren’t that many of them and there are hundreds of churches in the area. The idea that they could sustain such everywhere is not plausible.

 

Reading up about them....

they don't seem very nice.

In fact, they seem like hateful bigoted a-holes.

 

Yep and atheism is a religion.

 

Well I think you have to serve all people equally. And this doctor, does he refuse all abortions? If so you are right. Does this baker not do wedding cakes? Then the gay couple can not make him do one for them. But if the doctor does not do abortions for a gay women that want one, but does for straight women then he should reprimanded.
What if it violates their conscience to serve catholics or even worse Jews!!! They don't even follow Jesus' teachings either. What about blacks, if their conscious does not allow it?

If they don't want to serve gays all they have to do is put up signs saying marriage is between a man and a woman, potential gay couples won't patronize the store. No one is telling them they have to have statues of two grooms or two brides in stock. They can even tell the customer that they are going to rot in hell.

 

I don't know what kind of world you live in where you have to keep saying things like

You are quite deluded if you think that people who have never been to college somehow have deeper understanding than those who have. You see, those who go to top Universities are the smarter kids. They make you take entrance exams and everything. The classes teach at a much faster pace, at a higher level than anything from high school. College, for people like me wasn't about indoctrination, as you keep claiming, but rather learning and then proving I know more than most. There is a competition, as tough as any athletic competition. At some point it comes to playing with the big boys. All the whining in the world won't matter if you have not done the work, plain and simple.

 

So with an IQ of 154 and scores topping most of the classes I was in, you think I'm dumb- and you are smart? I haven't seen what I consider a smart statement yet from you.
When I took master dive instructor training, the written was a new test in field study. I scored 113%, because I exceeded the averaged score of the 3 master instructors conducting the course who took the test as a panel to set the 100% benchmark. When I went into the military- they sent an officer to ask me to consider OCS enrollment (Officer Candidate School) after the testing series was done- because I had the top score of the 125 people tested. My brother was second. I'm a self-made millionaire. Three of my immediate family are as well- running businesses I started, but gave to them. I'm the inventor of more than 50 successful specialty devices, many medical. I've been hired to teach secondary teachers in my special skills areas. Hired to teach executives and managers including about 200 with Boeing. There's a good chance my income taxes exceed your income. And that is the short-list.

Real-world education is going on 24/7, and it did that long before the first college was established. The difference is that real-world education's diploma is measured in results and success- not a certificate that says you know something. The hardest part isn't being smart- it's being able to use it functionally. High IQ is a curse as well as a blessing, because most with a high IQ are miserable at understanding people. I was invited to a Mensa meeting too- left when I found out the speaker was a practicing witch, and had been invited back for the second time by those "intelligent people", whom I certainly did not want to consider my peers.

The arrogance of assuming you are smart because of a high IQ is part of the curse- it keeps people from learning the vitally important skills of communicating with others beside those who have their head in the same "we are so smart" place. Accomplished people with high intelligence have no respect for that kind of arrogance, and such people are rarely high achievers, because they are self-limited.

Smart is only valuable when you know how to make practical use of it, including learning how to relate to the rest of the world. Otherwise- it is a major handicap that makes you a misfit in a functional society.

You are demonstrating the fallacy that has become increasingly common with the younger college people- arrogance; knowledge without understanding and functional value. College USED to teach people how to think, but that is fading fast, being replaced with what to think- and the resulting product quality has become very poor. Once you buy into that garbage, you have limited your own ability to think independently- or to cure yourself of the problem. Many have no idea that the problems they think they see in others have are really issues of their own perception.

Take note of the footer below in red type, a quote from Charles Kettering. He was a very smart man who unlike many smart men, was not also a fool. I think he's got you pegged with that quote.

 

So you are upset that a college might do the same thing you are cheering the baker for?

Such a strange narrative the anti-gay groups have, I mean it doesn’t even pass a basic rationale test.

 

Calling atheism a religion is a bit like calling a couch potato an athlete.

 

You know, I am a classic underachiever. At some point I discovered that I had hit the trifecta. Quite often I find myself being the best looking, most intelligent, best fit man in the room. Quite possibly has something to do with my fine Swedish genes. In high school I, and my friends, were in the Honor Society as well as started on sport teams. We spent our weekends partying with girls. A pattern that has somewhat endured over the past 40 some years.

I never had to work hard as most things come easily. I don't know if it is telling or not, but I can relate to the subject of the song, You're so Vain, by Carly Simon. I have had women express similar sentiments to me.

Anyhow you should know that intelligence is a driver of personality, among other things. In the same way that a good looking person tends to have certain personality traits that are developed by favorable interaction with others. And an ugly person has different personality traits because of less than favorable interactions from others. A highly intelligent person has certain personality traits that come from their interaction with the rest of the world, which are considerably different from those of low intelligence.

Anyhow, there is this scientifically derived personality type of highly intelligent people. There is a lot of variation, but certain traits are quite unique. On television there are two popular characters, whose character, although exaggerated for dramatic and comedic effect, are based on this model. They are Spencer Reid and Sheldon Cooper. Can you relate?

 

You summed it up.

This right wing meme about freedom of speech on campus is just another right wing noise campaign.

They send their most repugnant people to give inflammatory speeches. Then bellow that their “freedom of speech” is being infringed if people don’t sit still and endorse the bigotry, xenophobia and fear mongering.

And there is a big anti intellectual component,. This is the usual shopworn tirade against edumacation and egghead college professors peddling Communism.

We’ve been hearing BS like this since the 1930’s.