What Are You Listening To? #24

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  1. Eadora

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    Mine TOO :)



     
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    Interesting: what are we hearing here? The African origin of the blues or blues influence on African music? I’m inclined to think the later.
     
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    Now for a little Rock & Roll shmulch.....
     
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    Gregoria Allegri’s Miserere was originally part of a body of music titled ‘Musica Prohibita’. Only ever to be performed in the presence of the Pope.
    Mozart witnessed a performance and took the entire composition, all twelve parts, away in his memory. The Anglicans and others have been gleefully performing it ever since. The text I find irksome as it’s riddled with ideas such as ‘My mother conceived me in sin’.
     
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    Me Too ! - MALI - arguably the Birthplace of the Blues

    Here's some Court Music from GAMBIA -
    Sona Jobarteh - On the Kora with - Jarabi -





    If YOU like - try some "Toumani Diabate"


    Here with Vieux's Big Daddy "Ali Farka Toure"


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    It's funny, just about everyone is familiar with the song "I Put a Spell on You" but few of them have ever heard the artist who wrote the song - Screamin' Jay Hawkins. To say his stage show was a bit over the top might be putting it mildly :smile:

    (Lame intro ends around :53)



    Some more classic Screamin' Jay





     
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    Sacré bleu! :omfg:

    The birthplace of the Blues and Jazz - two of the greatest genres in music - is in the Deep South.

    Of course, there are some great lesser known genres such as Zydeco, which you'll note is sung in the native tongue of Louisiana:

     
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    WRONG again AE - Must I always be correcting YOU ? :)
    The Blues were the BLUES long before the Cotton Fields -Bros

    Spend a bit O' time here and Get Chaaa an Edumackation [​IMG]

    The Birthplace of Blues - Timbuktu, Mali - or maybe we should just say AFRICA
    https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0305/Timbuktu-the-birthplace-of-blues

    From the Site:
    It’s advisable
    not to argue with the folks in Timbuktu about this point, unless you’re in a dangerous mood.

    “My father used to tell me all the time that the blues is not from America, it’s from Africa,”
    says Vieux Farka Toure, Mali’s top guitarist, and son of the late guitarist Ali Farka Toure.
    “Who plays the blues? African-Americans do. In fact, I don’t even like to think of them
    as African-Americans. They are Africans living in the United States.”

    The words may sound pugnacious or boastful, but Mr. Toure delivers them with a gentle,
    matter-of-fact smile, as if explaining to a child that milk comes from a cow or that apples
    grow on trees. And while academics may question whether the blues were born here in
    .............the sands of the Sahara – or perhaps down in the swamps of Nigeria, Angola, or
    .............Mozambique– it is without question that the blues came from Africa, in the hearts
    .........................................of the 20 million slaves who were brought to the New World.
    .

    RE - The Buckwheat - I use to catch his show whenever it was within 5oo Miles O mee
     
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    Can you post an example of Malian music that illustrates the point? I’m fascinated as this argument has been on-going in the music world in the US for a long time.
    I’ve tried tracking down examples but to my ears they don’t sound like blues even if I go back as far as Leadbelly.
    Maybe though there’s been some kind of cross fertilisation between Mali & the US?
     
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    Another GREAT Jobarteh Jam



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    FABULOUS ! ! ! But I’m still thinking there’s a western (US?) influence at work here, especially in the bass guitar part.
    Who cares though, this is music making of the very highest order. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    The above was NOT meant to answer your question. I'm not even sure as to how to approach
    an Answer ? - other than to say - When people go somewhere they usually take their MUSIC
    with them. And as MUSIC will - It will expand & clarify to the enviroment & conditions met there
    I am NO expert and will NOT pretend to any definative resolution to the Problem


    The 1st cut taken from this concert is I believe a TRAD> piece - Very haunting & Bluesy
    ...............................................................but definately different from what we might call US Blues

    Fatoumata Diawara - live @ Le Trianon




    Perhaps we could reach some sort of conclusion with more detailed study of Older
    ....................................................................... more Traditionall African MUSIC
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    Well as soon as you plug in a guitar you PROVE a Western influence
    I'll give you that - Jobarteh is however first & foremost a musician of
    the KORA - It is the Traditional Instument of Upper Class African Court
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kora_(instrument)

    People inheritied the Right to play that Instrument - And the music they played
    usually had Historical if not Ancient roots - So if YOU hear a lot of Blues
    on the KORA YOU can maybe have a pretty good Idea where it's coming from

    There were also other Blues capable plucked string instruments.
    & the KORA is a very sophisticated insrument by anyone's standards


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    NTR Podium: Lavinia Meijer speelt Philip Glass
     
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    That’s the least boring of any of Glass’s output I’ve encountered. Most of his works for me are so boring I’d rather watch paint dry,
     
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    Dammit, Crayola Kid - how many times do I have to tell you I am not and have never been AE!?

    Nope - Blues (and Jazz) were born right here in the southern United States:

    Even your ami Monsieur Touré concedes the point.
    LMAO - Dude, I live in the South and my wife is a Blues nut from Mississippi (that's where BB King is from, son). I've been in Blues clubs from St. Louis to Memphis down to New Orleans, which is the greatest city on Planet Earth. :-D

    Now, pay attention, boy - this and places like it all across the South is where the Blues came from:



    Not whatever the hell this is:

    [​IMG]

    What's the matter with you, fool? :lol:
     
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    Now, that I'm through schoolin' Eadora...:D

     
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    Floods - Pantera


    For the memory of Dimebag . . .
     
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    ...............................Me ! - U call ME the F[​IMG][​IMG]L ! [​IMG] ?
    [​IMG]Man [​IMG] - There's something WRONG with YOU [​IMG]


    even Screamin' Jay Hawkins - says
    There's Something Wrong With You [​IMG]





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    Nice, mellow and sweet! :applause:
     
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    Great album :beer:

    Here's a song off Trendkill you can blow your speakers out with :smile:

     
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