This seems to be people from the same cloth to me

In another thread it was suggested that if states continue to create heart beat laws or out right ban abortion, there might be a civil war. Fighting a civil war to keep killing the unborn doesnt seem much difference than the Nazis killing Jewish people in WWII!!!.

 

As a hater of abortion but supporter of the concept of body autonomy and the freedom of choice- I don't see a civil war erupting over abortion. Perhaps some isolated pockets of civil dissorder, but not more than that. The left simpy doesnt recognize the right to violently resist tyranny, nor do they maintain the means to effectively do so. Its bluster.

 

Who specifically has suggested there might be a civil war started by pro-choicers?

 

Someone on a different forum.

 

Can you provide a link to this different forum?

 

Have you ever heard, "You can't make stuff like that up?" Well, apparently you can.

 

The only issue I see happening is someone sueing over a few of the more extreme laws being passed.

For example, Mississippi's law bans abortions at 6 weeks, regardless of the circumstances. The language of this bill makes it illegal to terminate a pregnancy even if the mothers' life is clearly endangered, and an abortion is the only possible way to prevent her death. '
This means that someeone in Mississippi is eventually going to end up dying from some complication in her pregnancy that normally would have lead doctors to terminate the pregnancy to save her life.

It also means that life threatening miscarriages become worse, because under Mississippi law a pregnancy doesn't have to be viable for terminating it to be considered an abortion. They define abortion as the termination of any pregnancy at all, even if the child won't survive no matter what. So if a woman is going through a miscarriage in Mississippi, and will die unless the pregnancy is terminated, the new law says that they have to let her die.

This will eventually lead to wrongful death lawsuits in federal court, and likely some negligent homicide charges for some doctors.

 

The only people I see talking about civil war are those on the extreme right that jump at the chance to shoot their fellow citizens with whom they disagree. You’re projecting.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019...nts-to-be-a-leader-in-the-far-right-civil-war

 

Rowe vs Wade is "settled law."
Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh to Senator Susan Collins during his confirmation hearings.

 

Nazis killing Jews back then wasn't a problem, and people killing babies now isn't a problem. The only reason anybody cares about abortion is because roe v wade took the legality of abortion out of the hands of the individual states. If Roe v Wade was overturned, abortions would continue but on a state-by-state basis, and in fact, democrat states would benefit from abortion tourism.

In other words, none of this has anything to do with killing babies. It's just a bit of propaganda designed to dehumanize democrats. The democrats do much the same thing with their propaganda which makes republicans out to be enslaving women and forcing them to be baby factories.

 

Silly cons, there won't be a civil war. You have already lost this battle.

 

I always hear this from progressives, and I have to say that this "there isn't going to be a civil war!" stuff doesn't seem to be backed up with anything in the way of historical knowledge. You probably don't realize this, but there have been many wars throughout the centuries.

What makes you think there won't be another one?

 

Belch, opine all you want. But this battle is over, because there are not enough of you with enough resources to even start it.

 

No one is ignorant enough to think there's going to be a civil war over the abortion issue.
Can't believe there would even be a thread about such a silly issue.

 

Clearly you're not a history buff.

You should really check some of it out sometime.

 

another historical luddite, I see.

Do you guys just watch the game of thrones?

 

I never seen an episode.
Why, did they start civil wars over abortion?

All those pregnant women are going to take up arms and start a war? With whom or what?

 

We've already tried anti-abortion laws in this country. They were a complete failure. Even if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the decisions go back to the states and the majority of the states will keep laws allowing abortion up to 20 weeks. Those that don't are the bass-awkward bible states and Operation Jane will be restarted and buses will be provided to take women out of state for abortions. Those with means will simply take "vacations" like they did prior to Roe v. Wade.

Anti-abortion laws were a complete waste of money and time 50 years ago - and that was when the entire country was more conservative.

 

Dude - only about 7% of America wants to ban abortion under any circumstance, and less than 20% think it should only be for rape or incest. Not really the numbers you need to start a "civil war".

 

Actually, I've never seen it either. I've heard it's loosely based on the war of the roses, but with dragons.

No, pregnant women are not going to pick up guns and march into Trump country demanding that they all receive abortions on demand. Just understand that the hatred both sides feel is very very real. Conservatives don't simply disagree with progressive policies. We think it is fundamentally evil. On the other side, progressives don't simply disagree with conservative policies. They think conservative policies are evil.

With that much hatred on both sides, how much longer do you think we can pretend that it's just a friendly disagreement between neighbors?

 

Hatred is an emotion.
And a waste of one at that. It consumes and eats people who hate.

I guess it's why I don't like either of the 2 sides.

So you think the military/gov't will sit idle while the 2 moronic sides fight over foolishness?

 

Yeah, umm... these things are not started based on consensus. Most of the colonists didn't want to go to war with England. It's just that a few were pushed a bit too far. Then suddenly there was the boston tea party started by a few disgruntled tea drinkers who felt that their rights as Englishmen were not being respected.

The civil war started with a picnic while watching fort Sumter being attacked. To this day, nobody really knows why it started. Some say it was to free the slaves, while others say that it was a federal government overstepping its boundaries, and still others think it was economic. Slave owners could muster up a work crew anytime they wanted that literally worked for slave wages, making it difficult for men to make enough money to feed their families.

If you knew anything about history, you would know that nobody really knows why many wars started. One day the world is at peace, and the next day, there are cries for young men to hurry up and die horrible deaths on foreign soil to protect the financial interests of foreigners.

 

Dude, I was a history major at the University of California, Davis - Wars are not "just" started - you can trace their roots for years if not decades. And we've had legal abortion for over 50 years, it's not as if this was a sudden change in the shape of the world.

 

I imagine the national guard might be called in to tell everyone to go home and watch reruns of the flintstones, but anything more than that would be a PR disaster.

I get the impression you're envisioning some kinda full out war complete with interlocking machine gun embankments and troops being whistled to go over the top and make a run through no-man's land. Wars have historically been a series of skirmishes and battles that are only connected much later and seen as part of a much larger war. The indian wars are a great example of that. It was just a case of many different groups who hated each other with a passion, and sometimes tempers flared. They were actually the western front of the civil war.

 

Who is going to fight this civil war you envision?
And how?
I guess, in a way, white nationalists have started one with them being responsible for the most domestic terrorism in the USA. Even in other countries now.