Pentagon Condemns Russian Conduct after Warship’s Near-Collision with U.S. Cruiser

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  1. notme

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    You're still not addressing the point that the US ship wasn't any more restricted in maneuvering than the Russian,... since the chopper was at a nice comfy distance taking pictures of it all.
     
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    Only a high aerial view of the paths of both ships when they were still both far away from each can show who may have changed course to place both ships on a collision course. It seems like it was a clear day and lookouts high up using "bigeyes" can see further than 12 miles easily so I'm not sure how these two ships even got that close to each other in the first place. I spent 2 years on a 370 foot Coast Guard cutter out of Governors Island, NY and we never once had a near miss incident.
     
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    It is arrogance. When the Russians come flying close to the US... they get "intercepted" and "escorted" away.
     
  4. Blinda Vaganto

    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looks like your qualification is a huge overkill for such a simple situation. But the army of armchair generals are still thinking they know better.
     
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    So every time you see Russian planes entering foreign airspace or buzzing allied planes you
    get angry at America? And would you angry at the thought that America is intruding in "Chinese
    territory" in the Philippine Sea, back up by Russia's navy?
    What about the American spy plane with 24 crew hitting a Chinese interceptor jet near Hainan
    Island? Would you see that as a America suicide attack on a helpless Chinese jet? Many do.
     
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    Here's a larger photo of the incident. If you look on the left side of the photo you'll notice that the American ship did change course and turned towards the Russian ship. This is what Russia reported to the US government before Washington flipped it and made Russia the aggressor.


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    Russian ship approached from the right.
    According to your picture Russians are the ones who violated the rules.
     
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    Screw the Russians.

    " we will take what we want, then decide whether or not to blow your ship from the water"

    Communism has no rights whatsoever on the world stage it is an illegitimate way to rule a country. America should not allow the Russians to have any influence anywhere. Any further provoking they lose a ship.
     
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    you still have no clue. restricted maneuvering is not just for 5 min it can be for hours, when doing flight ops they are landing and taking off you need to have the wind speed and direction is needed to prevent crashes. tell everyone how long does it take for the helo to load or unload cargo while it is hovering over the flight deck, how long does it take for it to be safely tied down and secured after flight operations. was the helo trying to land to refuel and now couldn't and this put the crew in danger? there are hundreds of other things you need to know about that no picture is going to show to determine if it was as safe as you claim.
     
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    A lot of things can be blamed on Trump. He's an idiot.
     
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    Your chubby little pal...

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    Don’t be bitter!
     
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    I didn't vote for the Idiot-in-Chief ... I'm not one of the crowd who looks stupid.
     
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    Do you understand how ridiculous it is to still be pushing the stupid hoax?
     
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    LOL Ships don't "brake"! Ships steer out of way of potential collisions. What we can say is that the Russian ship was traveling faster than the US ship.

    Also since we don't know the tidal flow, the direction of wake at that distance from the ship is of no use in determining if the Russian ship was or was not in a straight line until it changed direction to avoid collision. What we can see is that the US ship made no effort to steer away

    What I should add though is that the US ship was traveling very slowly judging by the length of its wake and may have only started to move when a possible collision was discovered which points to the Russian ship being the culprit
     
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    No, you're wrong there. They came into your lane
     
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    "LOL Ships don't "brake""

    I like using nontechnical lingo such as that. It's fun for me.
     
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    It wasn't a hoax, but a legitimate investigation into the Trump campaign.

    The Bloviating Fatso you support calls it a scam, but he has no way of knowing if some of the sleazy characters he hired were peddling influence. It's just like Democrats not being sure about Hillary and her emails, Slick Willie meeting with the AG, etc. All of these jackasses act like they're entitled.
     
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    And that works both ways.
     
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    Stop flipping!

    The Russians continued the course and stood their ground as the American ship changed course and veered towards them.

    Moscow has proven to Washington a million and one times that they will never give in, so what is there to understand?
     
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    Where's those videos Jenny?
     
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    It's obvious from the photo that the Russian ship on the right was veering away from the American one, while the American ship was veering towards the Russian one and at a higher speed - so what are you trying to pull?

    When the Russians complained our government flipped it - as they usually do.




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    Hey Rip Van Winkle, the Soviet Union's gone. :spin:
     
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    The Soviet Union moved to new digs at...
    430 South Capitol Street Southeast
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