Iran shuts 547 restaurants for playing illegal music, debauchery

Similar to Butler's Aryan Nation church.
No Christian group endorces them so they needed to invent their own church,
Loosely based on Christianity.

 

Nazis hate atheism just like so many right wingers do on this forum. But as usual, intolerance is almost uniquely right wing.

 

Don't know where you got that Idea, Most Nazis were atheist.

 

(once again) Proof please.

 

Someone posted a good news story a few pages back.
I am not going to bother looking for it.

 

Where is your proof that "Nazis Hate Atheism?" The Nazi leadership was mostly atheists. Heinrich Himmler, Hitler's right-hand man, despised Christianity and tried very hard to to erase any vestiges
of it from his SS. Hitler also thought Christanity was for weaklings. Stalin was unquestionably an atheist, and his death toll roughly matched Hitler. And anyway, what does any of this have to do with
Iran? The Time-Life book "The SS" had a section on Himmler's efforts to purge Christanity from the SS. I've quoted from it before, so I'll include only one brief quote "In death as in life, the SS sought
to distinguish its members from the uninitiated. For SS men who had renounced church ties - as a majority of those in the armed units did - an alternative to Christian burial was devised." Fallen SS
men were buried under rune shaped SS markers rather tha crosses. If the Nazis were Christians, why would they want SS men to renounce Church ties?. Why would they not want SS buried with
crosses instead of rune markers that harkened back to pre-Christian, Pagan rites?

 

you mean like making school children stand and say under God in our pledge every school day?

I know your a one task at a time guy, but I think government can walk and chew gum at the same time... well accept maybe Trump

"Like opposing any form of Shariah instituted in the US."

yes, I am against Shariah or Biblical laws in our government too

 

And what God do they promote, there are over 3000, and most kids have a God.

I don't think any schools force the kids to say that.

 

Since so many Liberals have found no cause to condemn Iran for its theocratiic police state shutting down restaurants, censoring the internet, or enforcing repressive dress codes, I'd like to ask
how many of you would favor these things being introduced to the USA? Why is it you are so quick too condemn Christians of any denomination, but bend over backwards to kiss the posteriors of
the worst stripe of Islamic fundamentalists? Don't you understand that if Islamic fundamentalists like those who run Iran were to take over the USA, you'd be the first ones they would kill? Do you
know what happens to Liberals in Iran? The have very short life spans. SAVE YOURSELVES NOW!!!!! Oppose Iranian theocracy.

 

Were any kids recently disciplined for refusing to pledge? Im no spring chicken, and the pledge was always voluntary for us (one could remain silent).

 

Liberals don't have a cohesive philosophy, and don't try to create one. That's why you can have the same people embrace Islam and homosexuality, hatred of Christianity and love of Islam, laws against pedophilia and child marriages for Muslims, transgenderism and feminism, minority rights and discrimination against Asian-Americans, Israel and Palestine, open borders and gated communities, victims' rights (believe the woman!) and criminal rights (don't rush to judgement!), eccentricity (wear whatever you want!) and utter conformity (how dare you think differently from the rest of us?!). The only unifying principle is Thou Shalt Not Uphold Traditional American and Western Values. Everything that goes against traditional American and Western values is therefore good.

 

they are only promoting GOD based religions like the Muslim religion, they are not supporting religions that do not believe in a God, Government should not be taking sides and telling our children there is or is not a God

many no longer force children to say it, some still do sadly

change it back to the Original pledge that honored ALL Americans... regardless of religious beliefs.. McCarthyism is over

 

Most religions believe in God(s).

 

yes, some have, some are starting to get in trouble over it, fired, suspended, and I saw one even get charged with child abuse for making a child stand during it... so times are a changing

why not make the pledge a uniting symbol again, why make it divisive? there is zero reason to add that anymore McCarthyism was a bad reason to add it in the first place

 

not all, the pledge should represent all Americans, regardless if they believe in a God or not

and it did until McCarthyism

 

If they don't believe in a god, they are not forced to say they do.
And I believe it was Eisenhower, not Mc Carthy

 

some are... but regardless, why have a divisive pledge, why not one that unites people instead

how would you feel if it said "one nation under no God"

 

That would discriminate against most people, for the sake of a few.

 

I am glad you see that would discriminate, why not just drop the "under God" and not discriminate against anyone? simple

but one could say "If they believe in a god, they are not forced to say they don't."

but I think you really know why people are against a divisive pledge

 

Uniting...

Tell me a pledge you think would be uniting.

 

the pledge before it said "under God" due to McCarthyism, then it applies to all Americans

 

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Well first off, the flag of the United States of America was banned by a number of schools in CA for being offensive to children of migrants. So that part is out.

Many folks don't appreciate our status as a republic (as opposed to a pure democracy), since it limits the power of The People.

A lot of people don't think we should be one indivisible nation either, as movements supporting secession slowly gain popularity.

And above all, the notion that children should be pledging their allegiance to anything when they can't legally be held accountable to such things sets an inconsitant precedent.

If we're gonna change the pledge to be 'uniting', I cant see it being much more than 'I pledge allegiance to liberty and justice for all.'

Or we could stop taking it so seriously... but what do I know.

 

Why are you saying this when you are aware of the figures from another thread, sourced figures that show what you write is not true.

 

Virtually everyone will claim a religion, usually one from birth with his parents.
Everyone in the Penitentiaries claim a religion, but almost none practice it.
The figures you saw in the other post is misleading.
Most people in Germany were born of Christian parents.

 

I've seen no information that proved the Nazis hated atheists, and I know that Himmler hated Christians. We all know that the majority of Germany's population was (at least nominally) Christian.
In my view, real Christians, like Dietrich Bonhoffer, opposed the Nazis. The rest were simply seduced and didn't realize what the Nazis really were. Most Germans were unaware of the concentration
camps (which my father saw while serving in the US Army) until after the war. Many still deny the Holocaust because they can't handle the guilt. The Nazi leadership despised Christanity, but used
Germany's traditional anti-Semitism to lure nominal Christians into supporting them through insincere puplic comments. Most Germans simply saw themselves as defending their country during the
war, not as fighting for the Nazis.