Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Trump just placed a massive for sale sign on his forehead while contradicting his own FBI director on legality.
     
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    You keep saying it is wrong but perhaps you could explain why it is wrong.
     
  3. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Dude, Mueller just released a 400 page report, and included 200 pages worth of links between Trump and his campaign accepting and encouraging help from a foreign adversary.
     
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    As a very basic starting point, the FBI director - the one appointed by Trump - said accepting political help from a foreign government is a crime.

    As a follow up, it means that Trump is placing a massive for sale sign on his forehead. He is willing to sell out his country to help a foreign adversary because it means he is defeating his political opponent.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They would take it from a foreign government. Let us not be naive.
     
  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And again president Trump is playing with Liberal minds, driving them up the wall. Very good, Mr. president :applause:
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, for example, if the Thai government could provide proof that a Republican opponent (Trump or whoever) had consorted with underage prostitutes while in their country, the Dems wouldn't expose that info because it came from a foreign government?

    Lol ...
     
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    You apparently didn’t read it. No collusion, no conspiracy.
     
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    Correct. You tell that person to contact the appropriate law enforcement agency and hang up. Then you tell the FBI that a foreign agent attempted to contact you with the intent of influencing the election.

    Because that is US law.
     
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    If you think 400 pages can be boiled down to "No collusion, no conspiracy," then you have a trump level amount of intelligence.
     
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    @Dutch holds his President to the same standard as an internet troll.
     
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  12. struth

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    The great thing about a good report is in the end they have a conclusion...that’s mueller’s conclusion
     
  13. HumbledPi

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    Here's the difference between 'oppo research' as done legitimately by a party candidate on the opposing candidate. They actually follow a structure --a guideline that keeps it honest and legal.

    Ten Tips for Legitimate and Legal Opposition Researchers

    1. Set a time limit. The belief that you can learn everything about a candidate is not realistic. Many inexperienced opposition researchers have a tendency to look for 'one more thing' to obtain.
    2. Remember you are researching public records and information. You are not on a spy mission. Be discreet but not deceptive.
    3 Document everything. You must be able to substantiate all the information in your report either through written documents or corroborated interviews.
    4. Our favorite tip is to find someone who has already done the work for you. If the candidate has been in other elections contact the opponent and inquire about what information they may be willing to share.
    5. Do standard background checks on the candidate first using: public records for current and past financial disclosure statements, real estate, liens, judgements, criminal record, law suits, UCC filings, bankruptcy, military records, vehicle ownership, aircraft and watercraft ownership, businesses owned or operated, professional licenses, and education verification.
    6. Our most important tip is to verify everything twice. If possible corroborate with multiple sources. Each fact must have hard copy documentation.
    7. Follow the Dollar. Money is the life blood of an election. Often the candidate with the most money wins. Identify the top donors. The candidate may be taking money from people or companies at odds with his issue positions.
    8. Nothing is more powerful than a candidate's own words. Research their speeches and interviews as well as anything they may have written. Look for examples of the candidate changing his message. This may signal a relationship between campaign contributions and policy positions.
    9. The Internet has changed forever the way in which we research, but the information is not always accurate. Leads developed from the Internet should be corroborated by public records or other sources.
    10. Provide your report to the client who hired you only. Politely decline to provide information to the media if asked.

    Tips for Illegal Opposition Research done by a foreign adversary:

    1. Make up seditious lies, give no facts or substantiation
    2. Get something in exchange like weapons, favors, trademarks, cash, etc.
    3. Deny ever being involved and blame democrats.
    4. Destroy the integrity of a US election as much as possible.
    5. Find out as many US top national secrets as you can.
     
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    Please quote his conclusion then instead of supplying your trump level reading comprehension.
     
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    Except that it isn't not only NOT a crime ... it's US policy ... since 1955. The law, colloquially called "five eyes" has repeatedly been expanded since 1973. An interesting tidbit, Obama on Nov. 8, 2016, authorized an ominous expansion of the program. Under Obama's provision persons authorized to access classified systems and databases, could share classified intel to unauthorized proxies, to include foreign actors. Committee urged Trump to press the UK PM for docs related to the UK's involvement in "crossfire coup d'etat" because under the agreement the WH is entitled to the intel.
     
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    “..the investigation did not establish members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian Government..”

    You should really take the time to read the report, you’d realize that the propaganda machines of the left have been feeding you lies and actually doing the bidding of Russia by spreading division and misinformation...the very things Mueller highlighted was the goal of Russia. Don’t be a Putin puppet, read the report
     
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    Five eyes isn't about political dirt. It is about national security. If a politician or candidate is playing in the sandbox that threatens national security, they shouldn't complain when their activities attract attention. Mr Trump.
     
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    This thread has certainly confirmed Trump's statement that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and his base wouldn't desert him. It proves that they will stand by him even if he says things that, just a few years ago, would be considered near-treason from anyone else, on either side of the political aisle.
     
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    So basically you are saying that Hillary, Mark Warner, and Adam Schiff are treasonous.
     
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    There was no Hillary campaign when she ran the state dept
     
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    How about making up a phony dossier? The FBI was in cahoots with Hillary.
     
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    Fine... then roll up your sleeves and dig it up yourself.... the American Way...
     
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    Yes, Hillary was in Obama's WH when she tried to use her power to take down an opposing candidate.
     
  25. MrTLegal

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    Keep going...
     

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