The bible is creations legend.

All of creation is God's revelation, His description, His map of Himself. The bible is that map's legend.

The legend is not, in and of itself, the map; however, it is integral to the map. One cannot infer what the map implies without that map's legend. Furthermore, the legend is for the map; the map is not for the legend.

Creation is not a map to God; it is God's map of God. Creation describes God. Creation is as distinct from its Creator as a portrait is distinct from who it portrays.

The bible is not the legend of God; it is the legend of God's creation. Apart from the bible, creation is as apt to be misunderstood as a map is apt to be misunderstood apart from it legend.

Having the map and the legend is but a small part of what is required to infer what the map implies. Language, literacy, computation, counsel and experience are all things that none of us are born with. They must be learned.

The bible is the key to understanding everything else, and the nature of everything else is the key to understanding God.

Anything, even God, is revealed, described and mapped just as much by what it is not as it is by what it is. Good is what God is; evil is what God is not. God reveals both good and evil in His creation because even God is revealed, described and mapped just as much by what He is not as He is by what He is.

 

God?

To whom or what are you referencing?

 

Creator, Necessary Being.
I refer to what is implied by what is observable, measurable and testable.

 

More verbal diarrhea.

 

That's it? That's your well thought out response? Very well then.

 

Mickey Mouse is more "observable, measurable and testable" than any gods.

So I ask again...your OP seems to speak of a particular person or thing. I am just asking who or what it is.

Don't answer if you do not want.

 

I'll answer again, but you're welcome to read my first answer.
The "who" you inquire about is the Creator of the material, spatial and temporal.

Perhaps the most common observation made by human beings, people who were separated by thousands of miles and thousands of years, people who never even knew of each other's existence, all made the same observation. They all observed that "this did not all happen by chance". As creative beings, as makers of things, human beings can recognize created things. Human beings are the only animals on earth who can recognize an arrowhead from a steam bed of similar stones.

For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - His eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

 

I didn't think you would name a particular person or thing.

No problemo. I understand why.

Question, if I may:

How did you find out that "people who were separated by thousands of miles and thousands of years, people who never even knew of each other's existence, all made the same observation. They all observed that "this did not all happen by chance?"

Or...or...is that something you are just guessing?

 

There are quite a few good books on the subject. I didn't do the research myself.

 

That's more than it deserves. Utter garbage.

 

Good post.... Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in parable after parable explained how the creation......
is like a second Word of G-d other than scripture.....
that also explains the nature of G-d.

I am enjoying this easier to understand version of Jeremiah:



https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/13/1/s_942001

Mat 13:3

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And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;

And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:

Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:

And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.

Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

......

Mat 13:19

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

 

God is not observable, measurable or testable.

 

We test G-d through prayers......
answered prayer is a powerful test.......

I know that I know that the following type of prayers works and results in our having an understanding of the much bigger picture.

The Cyrus Challenge Experiment proposed....


After praying that way I was eventually led to:

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a09

 

Yea, god is not observable testable or measurable.

 

Explain to me how the Big Bang is somehow incompatible with the idea of God Then explain how a Roman Catholic priest came up with this theory and published it.

 

Is there a maximum size a hydrogen ball can become before it goes nuclear?

 

That is an excellent point.......
The Big Bang.... or actually the Cyclic Model and even the Anthropic Principle fit very well with a more Theistic version of Evolutionary Theory.

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

 

"Observation" means something was observed. Nobody observed creation. Nobody has "observed" the possible larger environment in which this universe formed. Nobody was around at the time. Nobody knows the rules or mechanism previous to when this universe began its rapid expansion. Nobody can make any claim concerning how they came up with the idea in the Bible.

We DO know that the universe expanded from an incredibly small starting point at a high rate. We know the rate slowed and that right now the rate of expansion is increasing. There are different methods of observation confirming these results.

 

How do you know this?

 

So where do the seven days come into the divine creation?
......

 

My guess is that within a literal seven days......
YHWH organized a fixing up of the mess made by the revolt of Lucifer and his one third of the angels?????

But that is a guess... .and I am no expert on Hebrew..... so the full meaning of Genesis 1 could be far beyond what I can
begin to guess at...... but at least this fits with:

https://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html#a03

So in a sense YHWH is learning.... .because G-d had never seen a revolt
or sin until Lucifer led one..... . so G-d is learning..... but Adam and Eve were created........
So this has G-d evolving / learning and our grandparents created!

 

"... .and I am no expert on Hebrew..... so the full meaning of Genesis 1 could be far beyond what I can
begin to guess at...... “
The ‘full meaning’ of Genesis would be beyond you even if you were fluent in ancient Hebrew as the Genesis myth originates in Mesopotamia and not with the tribe of Israel.

 

Is it somehow incompatible to equate seven acts of creation to seven days? Please explain.

 

Yes there is. But what would be the cause behind the ball, and what would be the cause of fusion? Are all the natural laws random or have they been arranged?

 

Why do some hydrogen balls go nuclear at various sizes? Have your seen VY Canis Majoris and Ogletr 122b? Why is one so massive while the other one is so small?