By opting out of owning guns, you're giving us a power monopoly.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If I can get enough people to agree with me then I can make your having your guns illegal. If the government then becomes aware of them you can say my opinion doesn't matter for however long your prison sentence will be. That should be amusing.
     
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    The sun will engulf the earth before that happens.
    Thus, your opinion does not matter.

    Your irrational fears do not create a compelling case against my rights.
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You can't quote where I said that because I didn't, so you resort to nonsense instead, Typical conservative.'
     
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  4. HereWeGoAgain

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    More lies from trumpers. What a shock. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. TOG 6

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    Don't blame me for your explanation of why you don't know you're a Nazi.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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  7. US Conservative

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    You won't be able to get enough to agree with you.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    We shall see, as your own icon is fond of saying.
     
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    Be a shame if its a natural right that supersedes tyranny.
     
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    And why is that?
    Because irrational fears do not create a compelling case against the rights of the people.
     
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    We will -- and you'll discover your opinion doesn't matter.
    Your irrational fears do not create a compelling case against the rights of the people.
     
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    Show me where you have a right to own, and not just bear arms.
     
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    Context, please.
    He made the inane argument that people who don;t know they are Nazis are often Nazis, in a rather mundane attempt to label other people as Nazis. I simply applied his argument to him.
     
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    It is not that the united states has more firearm-related violence than most other countries. Rather it is that the united states has more acts of violence in general than most other countries. Regardless of the implement utilized, the united states always has more violence than most other countries that are held up as a comparison. Even if the number of firearm-related deaths in the united states dropped to zero, the united states would still have more homicides than any other so-called "first world" country it is compared to.

    And yet such is not the case, as is demonstrated by the nation of Mexico and the nation of Venezuela, amongst others.
     
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    :lol:
    Oh yes!
    You want to argue that the 2nd protects my right to posses a firearm I own, but does not protect the right to own that firearm.
    I laughed so hard the first time you tried to make this argument, I fell out of my chair.
    :lol:
    Tell us how the 2nd can have any effect at all if the government can outlaw personal ownership of firearms, but not personal possession of firearms so owned.
    :lol:
     
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    Thus demonstrating that life is not actually regarded by yourself as being sacred.
     
  17. modernpaladin

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    Real commies, I've found, actually value gun rights, so the proletariat can effectively fend off the burgouise (or w/e). Even they recognize the value of self defense...

    Its just addled progressives that want us to run away from any perceived threat.
     
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    That's quite true. In the 1930's the Soviet educational system was something of a model for the world in regard to the education of youth in marksmanship. That and the long standing tradition of gun skills in Siberia is one reason Russia had so many excellent snipers in WWII.

    It also gives the lie to the fetish that tyrants cannot prosper if the populace is armed. The Soviet citizenry was not only armed but well trained in the use of modern weaponry from an early age The communists wanted their comrades to be able to resist the inevitable invasion by the running dogs.
     
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    If they had no gun, they would likely not have succeeded.
     
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    Life is sacred, since Humans are created by G-d. A person's soul is not his/her to take.
     
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    There's no truth to this whatsoever, -- and even if they did not succeed, they'd try again.
     
  22. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True. Merely having guns does not prevent tyranny. A willingness to use them is also required.
     
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    You have no proof of that.
     
  24. Lee Atwater

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    Since when did rationality enter the equation? If we lived in a rational society regarding firearms the rules for buying and possessing a gun, and the type of guns (and accessories) available for purchase, would be vastly different than they are today.
     
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    What do you mean?

    Either you can protect your entire family with a loaded gun at the ready 24/7 or you can't.

    Who can do that? You?
     

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