Russia to West: D-Day wasnt decisive in ending WW2.

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  1. Kathie Harine

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    Few historians think the atomic bombing was needed to end the war with Japan. What is astounding is that few Americans realize the Battle of Midway was the turning point in the Pacific War. It was far more important than D-Day.
     
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    After stalingrad, the russians didn't need lend-lease. But it was crucial up to stalingrad. As I said, that 20% the other poster mentionned includes 80% of their aviation fuel needed at the time, most of their chemicals and medecine, foods, cloth, rubber and most important of all, trucks, to carry their troops and supplies. Until all their heavy industry had been relocated and started production, lend-lease was all they got.

    As for the UK getting more, yeah, because they were fighting in 3 theaters, Europe, Africa and Asia. They also needed more fuel and material for the navy, which the russian didn't need. Finally, the UK had been fighting for 2 years before the USSR and had lost pretty much all of their heavy weapons at dunkirk...
     
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    few revisionist having the benifit of 20/20 hindsight... Contemporary historian don't think that way.
     
  4. Kathie Harine

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    It was barely in the pipeline when the Battle of Stalingrad took place.
     
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    Hence the up to... Reading comprehension, get some.
    IN fact the USSR had trouble producing good quality aviation fuel during all of WW2 and was pretty much dependant on the allies for it. Their planes suffered from this deficiency.
     
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    Your fear about us amuses me. Stop your compliments.
     
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    I already have a DNA test. My haplogroup is I1a2a1a, which is pre germanic. Means my ancestors lived in Germany since Mesolithic times. I also have some influx from North-East Germany and the Baltics.
     
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    so will Trump side with Putin
     
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    Lot of Romanians have blue eyes....and the same haplogroup....interesting.

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    Fear? We defeated you.

    Your smug attitude is the kind of **** that keeps getting the snot beat out of you krauts.

    You ought to be embarrassed to even post in this thread. Considering you aren't and your smug.... typical German.
     
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    Then why bore me with sentimental rubbish about millions dead? Do you think i care? You act like a little princess desperatly screaming : " you killed millions!!!"

    I tell you something, the majority in Germany does not care. In school we made jokes about it on the school yard.

    And you dont care as well. You just try to use that stuff as a stick to beat on germans.

    Its a bit like Greece, whenever they they want something from us, they bring up ww II.

    Its super funny and even more fun when you reflect it.

    In 2015 the greeks wanted us to stop austerity on them. They called us Nazis and we should know what we did.

    Well our response was cutting their pensioners from banks and letting them starve. :D
     
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    WW1 wasnt started by germany and had no fascism yet
    fasiscm was born in Italy not germany either

    get your facts right
    ww1 is a conflict that started in serbia and escalated because the rulers of the time where idiots
     
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    ww1 i think germans mostly got defeated by spanish flu+ starvation, its such a noble thing to blockade a nation food suply to starve them in submission isnt it

    ww2 is another matter though
     
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    Stopp ... I am German too ... with proven 450 years German history in family! When you attack Sobo here for his bullshit blabbering I have no problem with it ... but if you compare me with him and say all Krauts, then I take this as attack on me too.
    And I am the opposite of what Sobo is...
     
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    Yes, you are the oppossite. I serve my nation. You betray it.
     
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    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml
    seems like your ancestors are from scandinavia not germany then ^^
     
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    First of all, Germany did not start World War I ... and it did not claim the sole guilt like the Versailles Treaty.
    And that was one of the main reasons why Hitler came to power, because he was the one who paired with other things the Versailles Treaty fought the most ... and when he was in power, he also suspended!

    But I expressly refuse, that one keeps us the Nazi time and the WW-2 again and again ... especially when the other arguments go out, always comes the club with the "evil Krauts". Sorry ... we just laugh at Germans and do not take these people seriously anymore.
    You are talking to someone whose ancestors - Germans through and through - fought against the Nazis and were sometimes murdered in the concentration camp. And I'm proud of my ancestors!

    Germany ... the reunited Germany ... has been a completely sovereign state since 1990 and it is up to us to have our own opinions and views as well as our own interests. It is also up to us to put them exactly above the interests of others and to subdue NOT to the will of others against our own interests.
    Many people have a problem because they were used to the fact that Germany simply keeps its mouth shut and just pays for everything. These times are completely over ... and the world should get used to that!
     
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    Funny how you insult me but say exactly what i said before.

    If you are german, you should know that a divided people will always fall.
     
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    Then stop dividing ... and stay to the German Constitution and the content of it!

    And it is how you say it with your Nazi blabberig ... what makes the difference!
     
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    I did swear an oath on our constitution.

    Its people like you who divide our people.

    I never do "Nazi babbling". I hate any form of socialism. Nazism included.
     
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    Berlin after end of war where Russians ruled. (I took this photo in 1963)

    Berlin housing blown up 1963.jpg

    American side same year

    Berlin Mansion.jpg
     
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    As what do you serve? SA member?

    Sorry ... I served my country 6 years as "Oberfeldwebel" (First Sergeant) and sniper... I and was in war zone in Somalia and in Bosnia and also in Kosovo with a Uniform where was black-red-yellow on! And thjis at a time when ypu still payed with Lego and believed in Santa Claus!

    Read our constitution and then act depending instead betraying it!
     
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    Nice ... I also swore then at the Bundeswehr ... but cool as you commit oathbreaking in which you polluted with your views udn your comments and the Constitution!

    And this has become a public servant ... horrible!
     
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    yes horrible to think for your nation first and question a regime that let 1.5 million 3rd worlders without checks in.

    Horrible to be someone who finds it outrageous that german welfare reciepients get cheapest housing while migrants get housed for 19.000 € per month luxury rent in Berlin.
     

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