Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

Yes, truth matters.
Lesson for the Trump haters in the Fake News media: The Big Lie doesn't work anymore.

"But there’s something odd about all this. Nowhere in the interview did Stephanopoulos use the word “government.” Neither did Trump. Here’s the closest they came:

Stephanopoulos: Your campaign this time around, if foreigners, if Russia, if China, if someone else offers you information on opponents, should they accept or should they call the FBI?

Trump: I think maybe you do both. I think you might want to listen. There’s nothing wrong with listening. If somebody called from a country, Norway, “We have information on your opponent,” oh, I think I’d want to hear it….If I thought there was something wrong, I’d go maybe to the FBI. If I thought there was something wrong.

"Stephanopoulos is vague—“if foreigners, if Russia, if China”—and Trump merely talks about “somebody” calling from a foreign country. ABC News itself was more careful than the rest of the media; in their teaser for the interview they reported that Trump said he wouldn’t go to the FBI if “foreign figures” approached him with information.

So be careful with the “Trump admits he’d take oppo from foreign governments” stuff. It just gives Trump a huge opening to yell “FAKE NEWS!” and claim that he never said any such thing."
MOTHER JONES, Trump Never Said He’d Take Oppo From a “Foreign Government”, By Kevin Drum, 6/13/19.
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-d...said-hed-take-oppo-from-a-foreign-government/

When will they ever learn?

 

I think you know the answer to that.

 

MoJo finally figured it out.
By 2028 many more of them will start to get it - if they are still in business.

 

Information that is true shouldn't be ignored just because of its source. Truth is truth no matter who utters it.

 

Let's see...who's the one really confused here...allow me to clear some points up. You and the democratic party think Trump should trust the FBI? What FBI would that be? You can't possibly mean the same FBI that are DNC minions that helped orchestrate a COUP to take down the president right? Sure they supposedly got rid of all the problems at the top, but there were about 40 in on that hit job, most of which are still there.

He could maybe go to Gina Haspel at the CIA but who knows?

That said, it's absolutely ludicrous and hypocritical how hair on fire the left is considering they actually committed far worse. Not just talk about but DID worse by creating a false narrative which was the infamous FAKE dossier with foreign agents which Hillary paid for to obtain FISA warrants to take out the president which is TREASON.

Not just sedition but actual treason in every sense of the word. And I think we all remember the tape of Adam Schiff listening to what he believed to be dirt on Trump but was actually just a joke played on him. Sure he told what he thought was a Russian agent to send all the proof to the FBI but again, what FBI? The one that was in on the coup involving Comey, McCabe, Strzok, and Page?

And if memory serves and truth be known...even Obama was guilty of far worse when he took a trip to Europe before the election to speak to foreign leaders about Trump. God only knows what he told them. If one of those leaders had called to tell Trump, you think he should have referred that to Hillary's FBI so they could cover and shuffle that under the rug as
well?

 

Papadopoulos denied saying anything about hacked e-mails to Downer.

Congress asked Papadopoulos if he was aware of recordings of his meetings abroad.

Papadopoulos says there are recordings of His meetings with downer.
If Papadopoulos talked about emails to downer and there are recordings of it, and he then lied to the fbi stating he didn’t, why was he charged for lying about when he met with Mifsud?

 

Knowingly accepting opposition research from a foreign entity to help a Federal election, MUST become a crime.

 

I was not the RNC that first hired Fusion GPS. It was The Washington Free Beacon, funded by Paul Singer. TWFB was an "Anybody but Trump" group that was in opposition to Trump. TWFB stopped gathering "dirt" on May 3, 2016, after Trump was pretty much a shoe-in for the Republican ticket. The information that TWFB obtain was not even the same information that the DNC/HC obtained. The information that TWFB obtained was public information and NONE of it was included in the Steele dossier. Steele did not even start working on his dossier until AFTER the DNC/HC stated funding the research.

I do have an issue with Trump actively obtaining dirt that was harvested from a potentially hostile foreign entity, even if that "dirt" was obtained by an ally or even our intelligence agencies. However, my issue would be with the validity of that "dirt" and whether that "dirt" was given to inform or disrupt. I also have an issue with:

1. A major news network obtaining "dirt' from a potentially hostile foreign entity and then airing that "dirt" publicly. There is little doubt in my mind that if CNN (or most, if not all, MSM networks) were approached by Russian agents and given dirt that we would be hearing that "dirt" all over the air the next day.
2. The RNC or the DNC obtaining "dirt" from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, I have little doubt that they both do it on a grand scale.
3. Any candidate, whether Republican or Democrat, obtaining "dirt" from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, I have little doubt that it is done more often than the public is aware.
4. Any SuperPAC (either D or R) obtaining "dirt' from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, there is little doubt in my mind that they would welcome it would create ads using it.

My issue is the source of the "dirt"....not how it was obtained or by who. Anybody that has an issue with Trump or the RNC obtaining "dirt", but does not have a problem with the other 4 entities I listed above, are nothing more than hypocrites.

 

Its already a Federal crime for a candidate or his campaign staff to accept or solicite anything of value from a foreigner, relating to an election.

this law simply needs to be updated to include "opposition research".

 

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Repeating false claims from a right wing trash blog does not suddenly make them true. And doubling down on the lies won’t make them true either.

Even if we were to accept the false notion that Hillary got intelligence from Fusion GPS that came from the Russians, you will have to explain Ted Cruz’s role in getting dirt from the Russians.

As Cruz employed the exact same team for the exact same purpose. He (and Trump)also employed Cambridge Analytica, which the Russians owned part of, and which used a Russian cut out to assemble the data sets that formed part of the Russian social media camaign that so many of the Trump supporters fell for and parroted.

 

Then you want Schiff charged?

 

Nothing needs to be updated.

Opposition research does not require the participation of the intelligence agencies of foreign or rival governments.

 

if there is any evidence or suspicion that the opposition research is coming from a foreign government source or persons with foreign govt. connections, it should be a crime.

or are you happy with Foreign Governments being able to blackmail our politicians???

 

“I do have an issue with Trump actively obtaining dirt that was harvested from a potentially hostile foreign entity, even if that "dirt" was obtained by an ally or even our intelligence agencies. However, my issue would be with the validity of that "dirt" and whether that "dirt" was given to inform or disrupt. I also have an issue with:”

Do tell what other purpose political dirt may have?????

Are you telling us you don’t care where the dirt came from as long as it was true dirt (Trumpsters never care whether anything is true at all).

And since foreign intelligence agencies influenced this President with a promise of dirt, which obligated him to them, and gave them something on him (that’s called compromat ) it was clearly intended to disrupt.

1. “A major news network obtaining "dirt' from a potentially hostile foreign entity and then airing that "dirt" publicly. There is little doubt in my mind that if CNN (or most, if not all, MSM networks) were approached by Russian agents and given dirt that we would be hearing that "dirt" all over the air the next day.”

You base this on what, exactly? You made it up???? What evidence to do you have ?You base this on what, exactly? You made it up???? What evidence to do you have ?

1. “The RNC or the DNC obtaining "dirt" from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, I have little doubt that they both do it on a grand scale.”

You base this on what, exactly? You made it up???? What evidence to do you have ?

1. “Any candidate, whether Republican or Democrat, obtaining "dirt" from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, I have little doubt that it is done more often than the public is aware. “

You base this on what, exactly? You made it up???? What evidence to do you have ?

1. “Any SuperPAC (either D or R) obtaining "dirt' from a potentially hostile foreign entity. However, there is little doubt in my mind that they would welcome it would create ads using it.”

You base this on what, exactly? You made it up???? What evidence to do you have ?

“My issue is the source of the "dirt"....not how it was obtained or by who. Anybody that has an issue with Trump or the RNC obtaining "dirt", but does not have a problem with the other 4 entities I listed above, are nothing more than hypocrites.”

This is a wordy version of the Trumpster “they all do it” rationalization. You have no evidence to support any of your claims. But you are perfectly willing to excuse the behavior of Trump for doing these things based on your construct, which is not supported by any evidence.

 

They already have...

 

I didn’t say that. You are trying to put words in my mouth, and failing miserably. All you have is an emoji.

Besides, Trumpsters are not only comfortable with foreign governments blackmailing our politicians, they have been outright cheering for precisely that for some time now. They certainly have cheered as Trump said he would gladly do it again (before he pathetically tried to walk it back this morning).

They are also quite comfortable with influence peddling. After all, when Mitch McConnell blocked attempts to rebuke Trump for cancelling sanctions on Oleg Deripashka, and Deripashka rewarded McConnell with a promise of a $200 million investment in his district, we didn’t hear a peep out of any Trumpsters.

And we never heard a word from Trumpster regarding the open influence peddling of Wilbur Ross, Ryan Zinke, Scott Pruitt,or Elaine Chao.

Nada, Crickets.

 

Now, Bonespurs is backpeddling on his moronic "I'd take (their help)" blatherings.

*LOL*

What an idiot.

 

And Schiffs actions?

 

*LOL*

"What abbbbbbout Adam!?"

 

Did he specifically say that he meant entities other than government?

 

Are you trying to use half-truths and outright fabrications in yet another false equivalency argument?

 

So you dont know that Schiff DID what Trump was speaking about... Quite the echo chamber you live in.

 

Have you guys stopped misconstruing the Steele Dossier yet?

 

Who faked the audio then since you are claiming its not legit?

 

Yes, you're sooo knowledgeable.

That dirty old Adam Schiff has been consorting with bad foreigners, so Bonespurs criminal conduct is automatically good!

Yay! Good reasoning.