Special Counsel recommends firing Kellyanne Conway over alleged Hatch Act violations

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  1. Egoboy

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    Look, you think the Hatch Act is sorta stupid and so do I, but can you not at least admit KAC (which is the noise I make when I see her on TV) clearly broke it??

    That little give?? It won't hurt....

    If not, I assume you will allow that the FBI and CIA can fully ignore whatever recommendations Durham and Barr come up with in their investigation?
     
  2. MrTLegal

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    Kellyanne Conway got caught robbing the bank and then yelled at the customers, **** you, I am robbing you again.
     
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    I understand that you are resorting to gaslighting whataboutism instead of talking about the topic of this thread.
     
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    Trump should no longer donate his presidential pay to the government

    Instead make conway a personal employee of trump and pay her out of his own pocket
     
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    That's fine, but she needs to lose security clearances and full WH access...

    Clearly she's already essentially a direct Trump employee anyway, adding nothing to any federal processes..

    And whatever her job title ends up being, we need to put 'Acting' in front of it.... Her official job title now is 'Counselor to the President'.... Sure, THAT wasn't made up just for this administration.... Should have just gone with 'Presidents Widdle friend'
     
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    She may not hold a high level security clearance

    But if she does she can keep them if the president says so
     
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    The Hatch Act was implemented in 1939. So for the first 163 years there was no Hatch Act. We don't need the Hatch Act. It's a stupid worthless law.
     
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    That is your opinion. But it is still the law.

    It is clear that you have no respect for the rule of law.
     
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    I suppose he could.

    After all, Mick Mulvaney is an “acting” chief of staff.

    Kelly Ann Conway isn’t going to leave the Trump White House.

    She’s there because she was installed by Robert Mercer (on behalf of his Russian friends).
     
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    Document that claim. And try and find a reliable news source.
     
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    We have never had a cult of personality before.

    And Trump knows how to build it and work it.

    At this point, there is little doubt that Trumpsters would don brown shirts, raise their right arms, and swear personal allegiance to Donald Trump over the United States of America. Indeed, they have essentially been saying that for months now.

    Trump asked people at his rallies to pledge their alliegence to him personally, and the mob does.

    Part of this is the fact that these people live in a world of slogans and code words. They don’t read. They don’t know anything about their government or their history. They simply repeat the last thing they heard on an AM talk radio show or that Trump bellowed.

    Trump just announced that he would be happy to break federal law and betray his country if it helped him sell himself to his base. He was unambiguous about it,too. He even dismissed the idea that the FBI director might think otherwise.

    (Of course, the traitor in chief tried to walk it back this morning with his usual “do you really believe what I just said” defense.)

    All of this is aided by a cable TV news media that presents current events as a he said/she said binary choice, which is viewed by much of the audience as an ongoing reality TV show, where you root for your heroes and boo the villians.

    Of course, reality TV shows aren’t real (even though the audience for shows like Duck Dynasty and the like think what they’re seeing isn’t staged BS), and there are no consequences.

    But when the host of the reality show is the President of the United States, one with real responsibilities (even if this one does not want to accept any), and whose actions represent real consequences, its another situation entirely.

    Last week we saw a real example of that. Trump, out of the blue, attacked Mexico and threatened them with new tariffs. This effectively threw away months of negotiation of a new US Mexico Trade Agreement. The President announced that he had no intention of keeping his word. So that agreement is history.

    Of course, he backed down, and declared fake victory. His base doesn’t know any better. But Mexico (and the rest of the world) does.

    One of the more hilarious aspects of Trump’s attempt to spin his announcement that he would betray his country for some dirt, was his bellowing that he talked to the queen of England, and that if he blabbed about that “no one would trust him”.

    But no one trusts Trump, or, by extension, the United States now.

    But his talk radio low information base can’t get enough of the constant parade of BS. It’s lowball entertainment for people who want their prejudices validated and who think it really is all a game.
     
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    the truth is, if Trump did not have such a fragile ego, he could of been a great leader... his own fragile ego wont allow him to ever become that
     
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    No freaking chance.... At absolute STONE COLD best, he could have been a serviceable, yet forgettable, president.... Keep some of his original, compassionate views on abortion, and immigration, yet throw the R's some bones with some wacky conservative tax scams (which he did).

    He doesn't have 'great leader' in his DNA.... If he had managed serviceable, he'd still be in the running for reelection...
     
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    An interesting point.

    If Trump had enough dignity to stay off of Twitter (once Elected) and act in an Honorable way...

    .....and be the President of ALL of America (instead of catering to a "base" that consists of the 1/3 of America whose "opinions" (just like Trump's "Opinions") are dictated by the RW Noise Machine)...

    ...Trump could've been a much better leader for ALL of the People.

    As it IS:

    Trump is a Disgrace to the Presidency (an Immature Snowflake Twitter Troll who nobody takes seriously) and who is Hated by 2/3 of America.

    Donald Trump? :roflol:
     
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    Apologized? What? No jail time? No fines? LMFAO!

    Oh, who am I kidding. Democrats never get punished when they do something wrong.
     
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    don't be silly, a federal worker can support a candidate, there is though some things they can't do

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hatch+act&t=ffsb&ia=news

    "The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials, from engaging in some forms of political activity"

    both sides agreed to these rules....

     
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    Trump is a Narcissist with a fragile ego, but he has power over a big portion of the right, had he not have had such a fragile ego, he may of been able to bring the parties together, but your right, Trump is not great and never will be
     
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    The Deep State never rests.
     
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    The FBI and CIA will have no say. Barr IS the law.
     
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    Translation, don’t point out the partisan hypocrisy.
     
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    A better translation: "I understand that you are resorting to gaslighting whataboutism instead of talking about the topic of this thread."
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    There is a lot of truth to that.

    But real leaders have visions and goals.

    Trump has never thought in those terms. He does not run an ongoing business., He does not have a management team.

    He has always gone from deal to deal, and surrounded himself with whomever thought they could benefit by being in his circle at any given moment. Invariably, this winds up being yes men and flunkies.

    He ran for President as an ego trip. He set out to prove that he could bring reality TV show hucksterism to politics and succeed.

    He had no vision beyond that.

    And he has neither ethics nor morals.

    Truth is not a concept that Trump is actually familiar with.
     
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