Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Seems that if you hire a foreign agent, a former spy, to get information from Russia on your opponent and then use it against them that is OK but if you just read about it in the papers and use it that is illegal :omg:
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even answering the telephone could be treasonous. The Democrats certainly apply rigorous standards to others.
     
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    During the course of his JOB for the British gubment. He then, as a private citizen gave that to Fusion GPS.

    Trump on the other hand knew of an active effort by a hostile foreign GOVERNMENT.

    Your comparing apples to transmissions

    BUT, in campaign finance law, YES, Hillary violated that law. The same as Trump
     
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  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And the Democrats tried to get something passed yesterday on a knee jerk unanimous consent that any contact with a foreign person would have to be reported by anyone with even the slightest contact with a campaign, like the guy who supplies the hot dogs at the rally, to the FBI and an investigation opened. Utter nonsense.
     
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    Schiff contacted the FBI, unlike Bonespurs and his crew of halfwits. And, Schiff wasn't offered campaign assistance like Bonespurs was.

    So, no, the 2 fact situations are not remotely alike.
     
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    I agree do you think its Treason?
     
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    No **** sherlock i brought that up when you played dumb not knowing what audio i spoke of..

    I even said so in a post to.. You.. read!

    Btw Schiff did what Trump said he might.. Dems called that treason of course you can not keep up.
     
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    He "might"? He specifically said that he wouldn't call the FBI and that the FBI Director was "wrong" to state that you need to contact the FBI!

    So, yeah, keeping aiming high when it comes to Bonespurs own words and conduct.
     
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    Listen to the audio yourself.. You are all over the place.
     
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    No, My response has been consistent.

    Schiff: Good. He said he'd contact the FBI, and did so.

    Trump: Bad, and stupid. He didn't contact the FBI during his campaign, and stated that the FBI Director was "wrong" when he stated that you need to contact the FBI when contacted by foreigners offering "help".

    You should listen to Bonespurs' interview. After you've read the Mueller Report.
     
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    God you dont know what is going on at all....
     
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    Candidate Hillary Clinton endorsed idea of political dirt from overseas

    Hillary Clinton has endorsed the idea of obtaining political dirt from overseas, saying her campaign’s Kremlin-sourced dossier was “part of what happens in a campaign.”


    So Hillary's criminal too?
     
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  13. HumbledPi

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    First a little about your source, the Washington Times.

    Washington Times media bias rating is Lean Right.
    The Washington Times bias rating is leans right. The Washington Times has the slogan “America’s Newspaper” and targets center-right conservatives, even defining itself as a conservative news outlet. The newspaper was created by Sun Myung Moon to conservatively fight communism, and also to stand as another, more conservative option to The Washington Post, which he claimed had a liberal bias. Because the newspaper is conservative, the AllSides Bias Rating™ for The Washington Times leans right. As of April 2017, a vast majority of the 14,000 AllSides users who voted agree with the lean right ranking. This number is consistent with the July 2016 results in which a large majority had also agreed.

    So there's that. I never trust just one single right-leaning website, I believe in verifying by checking any story with at least two more main-stream sources as well. Any news source that was started by the Sun Myong Moon is nothing I'd touch with a ten foot pole. You do remember him, don't you? I sure do, he owned the University on my city at one time. He's was a lunatic N. Korean evangelical. Moon was criticized for making high demands of his followers. The wedding ceremonies he conducted were nothing short of Hollywood movie substance.

    Back to Hillary Clinton and the real world....

    Every political candidate does opposition research, it's absolutely necessary to know your opponents weaknesses. This is common, this is routine and done all the time, nothing unusual or illegal about it, nothing. Christopher Steele received something in return for his involvement. Fusion GPS paid him, not Russia.

    When a candidate for the Presidency of the United States take aide, information, money and allows cyber-crimes of hacking the email accounts of other Americans from a foreign government that's adversarial to the democracy and core principles of the United States in exchange for something from that president when he wins-- that is illegal.
     
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    Was this meant to be a serious post?
     
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    So you remain unaware that if it was 'bad' Trump would also call the FBI. What happened after Schiff contacted the FBI? In fact how do you know that he actually did?
     
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    Why did he take the phone call at all.. Dems call that treason now.
     
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    Why didn't anyone in the Bonespurs campaign contact the FBI?
     
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    Seems quite serious. Usually posters gloss over those posts that make little or no sense, as I do with most of yours. Otherwise you might find it easy pickings to demonstrate your personal debating skills.
     
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    With what? Discussing adoptions?
     
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    So you will no longer cite the NYT, WaPo, LA Time, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Time, Newsweek, et al as sources anymore?
     
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    Of course I will, they are mainstream, not the 'Washington Times' which is not. The honest question to ask yourself is why aren't you quoting this article written by one of those mainstream new sites you just referenced?
     
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    Yep, No more phone calls for US Presidents. Did Nancy say whether this would apply to mails as well? Perhaps, like the food tasters of old, he'd have to have an underling read them first, as well as listen to all incoming phone calls.
     
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    About what? The Russian/British/ Steele/Clinton/DNC/FBI dossier? That wouldn't have done any good.
     
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    So you dont think "compromising materials" is an issue?
     
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    Uh, no. I call it "treason" when you knowingly accept help from a hostile foreign power and don't report it. Especially when you're trying to solicit help from that hostile foreign power to engage in a business transaction.

    I think Schiff contacting the FBI to be the correct way to handle a situation like that. You apparently have no idea how analogies work.
     

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