OSC says Kellyanne needs to go.........should be fired

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but there is no case law that suggest that Federal employees using their offices and Federal resources to campaign for political candidates is a violation of free speech.

    Indeed, yours it one of your typical false constructs.

    Federal employees are free to vote for, contribute to whoever they want.

    The are NOT allowed to use their offices or the resources of the Federal government to do that.

    Your representation is typically false, and a clearly deliberate attempt at a substitution argument.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, all press secretaries try to put a spin on things to make the admin they represent sound better. However, it needs to be recognized that variations on the "they all do it" meme does a disservice to other admins while excusing the ways this admin has been uniquely deceitful in a manner previously thought to be unthinkable.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's another case of Trumpists trying to bend the facts to meet their need for excusing every unlawful, unethical thing this admin does.
     
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    Except that isn't what she was doing. She was asked a question about a Democratic candidate and answered it. And what idiot actually believes that the presidents closest aids aren't his political supporters?
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course they are his supporters. That's not the point.

    The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials,[1] from engaging in some forms of political activity.

    There's Plenty of Precedent for Feds Facing Discipline and Removal for Hatch Act Violations

    https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2...line-and-removal-hatch-act-violations/157746/
     
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    It appears that the big difference between what the people in the link versus Conway was that they were actively campaigning rather than just voicing approval or answering questions. As usual, it is just another democratic stretch.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can take your foot out of your mouth any time now.

    More lawlessness by this admin. The recommendation came from A TRUMP APPOINTEE.

    In an interview, Special Counsel Henry Kerner called his recommendation that a political appointee of Conway’s stature be fired “unprecedented.”

    “You know what else is unprecedented?” said Kerner, a Trump appointee who has run the agency since December 2017. “Kellyanne Conway’s behavior.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2795fca3343_story.html?utm_term=.c55473c7a73e
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    So basically he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about...
     
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    Valerie Jarrett said that Obama would not have tolerated that. Yet Kathleen Sebelius and Julian Castro(now running for president) both violated the Hatch Act and kept their jobs. I guess Obama had no morals and values either.
     
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    Saying she should be fired is a partisan political statement

    So kerner should be fured also
     
  12. Lee Atwater

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    So basically.......since the "he's a partisan hack" argument blew up in your face........you are forced to make a statement that is ridiculous.

    Conway is a serial offender. That is what distinguishes her behavior from others.

    "During a one-week period leading up to the 2018 midterm elections, Conway posted at least 15 messages on Twitter that were political and in support of midterm election candidates or the Republican Party, according to the report.

    “Her defiant attitude is inimical to the law, and her continued pattern of misconduct is unacceptable,” the agency wrote."
     
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    So If I could find an "old what's her name" supporter who said "old what's her name" lost because "old whats her name" ran a bad campaign, that would make it true?
     
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    You really have the nerve to talk about "unlawful" when Obama and his weaponized departments(DOJ, FBI, CIA, State Dept.) tried to bring Trump down when he and the Democrats colluded with Russia to buy lies about him just so Hills could win? Are you people STILL hanging on to Trump collusion when it was Obama and the Democrats doing it all the time? Have any of you people even addressed THAT problem yet? And where were Obama's ethics when he flew a planeload of money to Iran in the middle of the night? And where were Obama's ethics when he let 4 Americans die in Benghazi and then blamed it on a video? And where were his ethics when he traded 5 Taliban leaders for one traitor? We'll start off with those 3...
     
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    Arkansas is in the South not the Midwest
     
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    Cool your fever swamp fantasies.
     
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    To review.............a Trump appointee called out Kellyanne for egregious, repeated violations of the Hatch Act by saying she should be fired. Not hung by the thumbs, not locked up, fired..........for abusing her position as a government employee.

    This has sent the defenders of all things Orange Turd in to quite a tizzy. Why? Because criticism of Dear Leader or anyone associated with him will not be tolerated. Even from a Trump appointee.
     
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    Trump always pick the best people......
     
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    Sorry, but it was not the only case.

    Of course, she could have said, “I can’t discuss that”.

    But in an Administration like Trump’s it never seems to occur to any of these bozos to exercise the slightest amount of discipline or decorum.
     
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    As they say in Arkansas, “Thank god for Mississippi”
     
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    "I can't accept that," is what Donnie J should have said we he was offered campaign help from the Russian government.............THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT FOR cHRIST SAKES!!!!!!!!!! But being from a crime family it's not the way his mind works.
     
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    Is THAT the best you can do? LOL what a waste of a response...but then when you have no response...
     
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    Liberals are such snobs

    Mississippi may lag behind the more liberal states in income but also has fewer boys cutting off their penis because they want to be girls

    Or mass school shootings where it trails uber lib california 19-1
     
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    Sorry if the truth hurt your feelings. Your post was garbage. But if you'd like to get specific I'd be glad to humiliate you one accusation at a time.
     
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    Believe me, my feelings aren't hurt. I'll leave that for the Libs. As to the rest, make my day....but I do realize that you will be relying on your feelings instead of facts, so I'll take that into consideration...wishing won't make it so...
     
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