Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

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  1. Sobo

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    Since the EU is the bigger economic zone it can neutralize this like we did with Cuba.

    The EU made a blocking statute, which banned european corporations from following american sanctions. Because of this the sanctions collapsed.

    The Blocking Statute led to the situation that USA had Sanctions on Cuba but had to ignore their own laws regarding that. Bush junior then even gave up on it completly.

    There were talks to use the blocking statute on Iran as well but Merkel and Macron decided an islamo facist regime is not worth to use the sharpest sword.

    Its obvious we would use it to protect Russia.
     
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    Pearl Harbor ring a bell?
     
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    The tanker is said to be drifting towards Iranian waters, I wonder whether they'll seize it (and whatever evidence) or the US Navy will try to tow it away.

    The video is not very clear, it could be a bunch of Israelis disguised as those "Revolutionary Guards", but this type of outboard engine fast boat is known to be deployed by Iran, they've been filmed before.
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    Interesting how the left loves intelligence agencies top echelon when they attempt a coup on Trump but suddenly turn on them when it's convenient to promote anti America policy.
     
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    Attack a sovereign nation on a made up charge? How is that not the same as declaring war?
     
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    The reverse is true.
     
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    Wrong.

    The evidence proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the attack was done deliberately and knowingly.

    All evidence clearly indicates the US flag was flying and clearly visible and that the hull of the USS Liberty was marked "GTR 5".

    It is virtually impossible for trained pilots to have mistook the USS Liberty for an Egyptian transport. That it was a US vessel was OBVIOUS. And the evidence overwhelmingly proves this to be true.
     
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    Interesting how "the right" loves intelligence agencies top echelon when they go on rampages in foreign countries but suddenly turn on them when it's needed to protect their embarrassing clown of a president from his own stupidity.
     
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    awwweeee....ain't that cute. The anti-semitic charges from the right wing is wearing off...fast. Israel is the only richest country we give BILLIONS to per year and for what?
     
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    I saw that he made a speech but never got the opportunity to listen to it- got a link?
     
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    Nope. That won't cut it. You don't get to start a war based on your "guessing" of who is the culprit. By the way, Saudi stands to gain if Iran is taken out since now they can sell more of their oil.
     
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    The fact that German companies are too scared to trade with Iran is only because German leaders refuse to assert Germany's independence from the US. I'm glad that Germany is becoming more independent from the US, but the US still exerts massive influence over your political system. Germany is still an occupied country. You're moving in the right direction, but you've still got a ways to go before you're truly free of undue US influence.
     
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    Wrong, Iran is a touchy subject.

    In the case of Cuba Germany forced our corporations to ignore american sanctions.

    We could have doen same with Iran. But Iran committed terrorism on german soil in the past.

    Evry action regarding Iran could create enormous backlash
     
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    Sure, just as long as you and the other warmongers are the ones who get sent to the front lines. I don't want any sane or decent Americans getting killed in a potential war.
     
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    Regardless of why Germany is not protecting Iran from sanctions, the fact remains, Germany is not protecting Iran from sanctions. That effort is failing and the Iranian nuclear deal is slowly unwinding, which is exactly what the warmongers in the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia want to happen. Germany could salvage the deal if it were more assertive, but your political leaders choose not to out of fear of US reprisal. The US has over 30,000 troops occupying your country. You're more independent now than you were in the past, but you are by no means independent. And I say this as someone who wants to see Germany restored to its rightful place among the countries of the world.
     
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    It will be war if the charges are true or made up.
     
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    Only if the dumb righties in Congress didn't learn their lesson from Iraq, and listen to the war mongering fools.
     
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    All governments are liars - Big Liars.
     
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    It would take a few hours. And if the USG is unwilling to do that and take the responsibility for the act, it could take 20 years for us to get out of Iran.

    IOW, Trump should tell his warmonger advisers, KSA, the DP to stifle themselves and just give peace a chance.
    War will be the end of Trump. That is the main reason why the RP?DP Deep State wants one so bad.
    So far, I have seen little evidence that Trump is a sucker. This war may not happen.
     
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    Anyone who does not know by now that the RP/DP political class wants war may believe in unicorns.
     
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    The dumb lefties were at least as pro-war as the righties.
     
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    It's not been customary for the Israelis to wait for the US to do the attacking past a certain point, which is when they do it themselves. OTOH this ISIS business was done pretty much by the US alone and this just started, so what do I know?

    Trump hasn't started any wars YET in his 18months which doesn't even compare to Obama's 8 years.

    If I could explain in detail how the KGB stole the 2016 election for Trump I'd probably be in Lubiyanka Prison for the next very few of my remaining days on Earth. Suffice it to say no one will probably ever know the complete particulars but the parts we've been told of are a mere distraction and I think Trump's 3 million phantom voters in California are nothing compared to how many were hacked out of Hillary's real and Electoral victory.
     
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    Keep your pants on - this could be done without anyone dying in American side.
     
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    I fear it is time to remind the barbarians that the use of force comes with consequences when one is the little guy in the fight. We can and should arrive with enough force to brush away the gun boats holding the ship and then get the damaged vessel out of the region. by
    'brush away' I mean make an example of.
     

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