Proof Faster than Light Black Budget Antigravity Technology is Real

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This video has not been completely watched by me yet.IT takes 56 minutes to see all of it.
    I am at minute 11 yet see value in the forum learning of this video so they can watch all of it and we can discuss the findings.

    So let's watch it and at any point in the watching, come back to comment or discuss. Fair enough?

     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I'm sure the secret projects have come far. If I recall correctly the projects in this video were from the 1980s. That's almost 40 years ago. They must've really advanced in the meantime.
    As I like to say, the UFOs in the skies are going to be increasingly human-made, of course there will always be a remainder that is from an unknown source. Yes, I'm talking about E.T..
     
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    There is no known physics that currently makes FTL anything more than science fiction. And these things don't just come out of nowhere. If we knew that in principle it could be done, as with things like the atomic bomb, then we might extrapolate that someone has done it. But not FTL travel. The fundamental physics that would make this possible in principle, doesn't exist.

    The amount of energy needed to modify space is orders of magnitude beyond anything we could manage; probably for hundreds or thousands of years at best. It would take something like the energy of a sun. And even that is theoretical at best.

    The only way I could see this happening is if indeed we have been reverse engineering alien technology - that it did not naturally arise from earthly physics.
     
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    I think that's definately proof for FTL travel! It's wonderful and I'd like to thank Robert for his contribution to the science in this forum! Folks, you read it here first!
     
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    Well, that was entertaining. Nothing I would call "proof" though. Just a guy making claims while showing drawings. Definitely no proof of FTL travel, but he did have an interesting theory about inertia nullification.
     
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    FTL is possible with negative mass particles.

    We just have to find some :)
     
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    There are things proven to go faster than the speed of light, they've been known for decades.

    The universe is expanding faster than the speed of light as just one example.

    So of course its possible.
     
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    However, nothing that goes faster than the speed of light has been shown to go slower than the speed of light.
     
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    Good one, I don't know about that.

    Now I have a new research project....school doesn't start up again until August so I'm getting bored.

    Did you know that scientists have recently teleported the first particle from Earth to space?

    China did it.

    Well it wasn't the actual particle, it was an identical replica of it.

    It's based on quantum entanglement meaning you can create an existence of two things in two different places so once you teleport that particle into wherever if you change the one on Earth the other one will change also.

    You aren't exactly teleporting the particle, its still here, but you are making an exact copy, down to memory and coding....everything....in a different location.
     
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    To be more exact, it was the complete opposite to the actual particle and info transferred in zero time......but cool still and mind bongling.
     
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    Sorry if I got it wrong, I'm a biologist, not a particle girl.

    You almost have to have a PhD in that to figure what they are talking about but I thought many of you might have liked to hear about it if you hadn't yet.

    It seems really cool!
     
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    in what capacity do you practice biology?

    at a University? private lab? government agency?
     
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    I'm still in school but I did intern at our Anthrax lab and learned quite a lot.

    Currently working on my masters degree.

    And for some reason the US Navy keeps contacting me to recruit me into their officer corps.

    No idea how they got my number either.
     
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    oh, I thought you were or was an actual practicing Biologist

    nevermind
     
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    The rate of expansion of space exceeded the speed of light and then slowed.
     
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    She has made many many claims. She has also claimed to be a teacher and a waitress... and apparently a chef.
     
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    I am a waitress and my masters is in education to become a teacher.

    Something about any of that you find hard to believe?
     
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    No, the expansion of the universe does not enhance travel speed AT ALL.

    What's happening there is that each tiny increment of space is expanding by some tiny amount. Over stupendous distances, the expansion of all the intermediate pieces adds up to a distant object receding at faster than the speed of light. This is a general relativity issue. It just doesn't help us go fast.

    We're constrained by special relativity, which has the speed of light as a hard speed limit.
     
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    Everything. You constantly promote crackpot science. Perhaps you should ask your college for a refund.
     
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    This is not a proper description.

    But, at least you don't claim that it is a way of rapidly moving matter.
     
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    What crackpot science to I promote?
     
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    The speed of light rule only applies to things in a vacuum.

    Here is a simple test.

    Go outside at night with a flashlight, turn it on, and wave it from one side of the sky to other.

    That beam of light has now traveled from one point in the universe to the other far faster than the speed of light goes.

    Suppose you set a marker for that beam at 4 light years away. When it hits that point at the first time you pointed the flash light upwards it will be followed by the beam hitting the second point at the last place you pointed the flashlight.

    That distance the light is hitting almost simultaneously could be tens of thousand of lightyears apart and your beam you waved is covering that distance in almost zero time.
     
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    Oh, good LORD NO!!

    Moving the flashlight does NOT change the direction or speed of the photons that were previously emitted by the flashlight. Once they leave the flashlight they are not affected by anything you do with the flashlight.

    Think about doing the same thing with a hose. If you spray in one direction and then wave it to another direction it does not change the previously emitted stream - in speed or direction. The previously emitted water particles continue on in the direction they were sent, regardless of what you do with the hose.
     
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    You are missing the point of the experiment.

    From here on earth to that point in space you are correct but from that first point in space to the second point in space you have a beam of light traveling thousands of times faster than the speed of light.
     
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    I'm sorry, but this is just so wrong.

    <Proceeds to set up hypothetical situation in the vacuum of space>

    The problem with this is that you would have to first hold that flashlight in the same exact place for 4 years to hit a spot 4 light years away (impossible anyway because of the Earth's spin). Then, as soon as you move the flashlight, the beam moves, not from the object 4 light years away, but from the flashlight itself. But here's the important part: all photons that came from the flashlight move at the speed of light, and no faster. A "beam" of light isn't a thing unto itself; it is a collection of photons, none of which ever move faster than light. All you did was choose to spray some photons in one direction (to arrive at their destination years later), and then spray them in another direction (to arrive at a different destination, years later), but nothing ever moved faster than light. Just because it appears from your position that the beam is pointing in the new direction doesn't mean that the beam of light is instantly there, light years away. That light will require years to get to the point you are pointing to, and that timer doesn't start until you point the beam that way.
     
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