Is the naive, militarily challenged, foreign policy neophyte, Trump starting a war with Iran?

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    We have allies in Europe, in the Union, and across the world.

    The Joint Chiefs will arrest any order by Trump to start a war with Iran.

    Remarks such as garyd simply to reflect the reality of the situation.
     
  2. PrincipleInvestment

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    Pay attention. The US has no allies in the EU. Iran is provoking Saudia Arabia who is arming itself with US weapons that are superior to Russian weapons Iran bought. The joint chiefs will shut up and deliver the weapons to the Saudi's as instructed. That reflects the reality of the situation.
     
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    Oh, if it were true that Iran is all that stands in the way of Middle East peace. But it is false. They are a huge contributor to the mess today. Jake is correct in finding fault with Trump's "gut" assessment and nothing in Jake's statement leads me to believe that he
    supports Putin's allies. Trump, on the other hand, is an expert at letting his mouth get in the way of his brains. With his trusty
    war-hawk Bolton at his side, we can expect more 'run at the mouth' drivel from Trump. Trump could be right, but so far he has no case for his argument. The Japanese disagree with Trump.
     
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    That sounds insane.
     
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    Does your memory go back before Trump's election?

    Iranians capture US Sailors
     
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  6. PrincipleInvestment

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    I think Trump arming the Saudi's speaks for itself. Without a direct altercation, Trump has no reason to respond directly. I think more US surveillance drones will be deployed to the gulf and Trump will let the injured parties decide how to respond.
     
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    True. We no longer have allies in the EU, thanks to Trump's 'bull in a china shop' way of doing things.
     
  8. PrincipleInvestment

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    Merkel & Macron were, and are defying Obama's Russian sanctions. While at the same time the 2 were not living up to their NATO commitments, they were, and are funding Putin's hypersonic arms race with EU petro-dollar$. Same with Iran.
     
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  9. JakeStarkey

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    PI does not get that we have SA and Israel in the ME, who would have no trouble starting a war to get rid of Iran.

    Iran is going nowhere, podjo, and the Joint Chiefs will not let Trump start a war over this nonsesne.
     
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    Sounds insane, but a good idea.
     
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    It's not our war to fight. SA & Israel are the injured parties. We will support our ME allies and provide whatever resources they require. SA & Israel can easily erase Iran without our direct involvement. The joint chiefs do as they're told. Trump's making sure the Saudi's are loaded for bear.
     
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    Japanese ship owner contradicts U.S. account of how tanker was attacked

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...33356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.e9ed5081fa7c

    TOKYO — The owner of a Japanese tanker attacked in the Gulf of Oman offered a different account Friday of the nature of the attack than that provided by the United States.

    Yutaka Katada, president of the Kokuka Sangyo shipping company, said the Filipino crew of the Kokuka Courageous tanker thought their vessel was hit by flying objects rather than a mine.
     
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    We no longer have EU allies, thanks to Trump. They are going in a different direction because Trump is not trustworthy among
    other things.
     
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    True, but the joint chiefs know that Trump is uninformed and not too bright and may not allow us to get into a war. He sells to them
    because they have the money to buy and our treasury needs filling, to say the least.
     
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    :roflol: We invaded and occupied Germany for 70 yrs. ... in the process we rescued the weakling French and kept them safe. The only reason Europe ever went our "direction" was because the alternative was annihilation.
     
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    Meanwhile our cash strapped DoD refuses to sell more weapons to our NATO ally Turkey. :roll:
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    In your infinitely small wisdom, just who do you think did it?. Logic says that Iran did it, but I am not accusing you of possessing any great logic.
     
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    That was then. This is now.
     
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    Is Turkey really an ally?
     
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    Not anymore...but Trump sure likes their leader.
     
  22. JakeStarkey

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    Real Americans cheer on Macron and Merkel. America should be steering between SA and Iran. Turkey is not our ally, only that of Russia.
     
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    For god's sakes man, give it up. Can't you see you're being played? I'm going to do you a favor and ignore your next post.
     
  24. PrincipleInvestment

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    This is Obama's legacy. Kowtowing to Merkel & Macron was the worst imaginable approch to EU / US relations.
     
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    I am waiting for your guess about who attacked the ships.
     
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