BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fact that they were negotiating the deal still at that time makes what he sadi a lie. You lie to hide, nothing more, nothing less.

    Trump was activly negotiating a deal with the Russians 2 months before the election, knowing full well that if that became public it would hurt him in the election. Defend that.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump can remember, he just knows that the truth will hurt him.

    What I find most fascinating is that everyone and their gramma knew who Trump was before he ran for president. He was an unscrupulous businessman, who would do anything for a dollar, and anything to self promote. The right elected him knowing this, and actually used this as a justification - "he's a great businessman who gets things done no matter what", and Now when he is accused of doing exactly these things (lying about what he said....who he said it to...what he did.....whom he did it with etc) the right now wants to try to paint him as some saint who would never do that. It would be fascinating to watch if it wasn't so damn scary to watch them not only defend the lies and deceit, but to actually claim it never happens !
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Negotiating for a deal. No deal materialized. Try to hang onto reality.
     
  4. Josephwalker

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    Anybody that believes a word that sleazebag lawyer said to the sleazebag Mueller who is still attempting a coup can't be taken seriously.
     
  5. Egoboy

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    I think they believed his word enough to name Donald Trump as a co-conspirator.... so there's that...
     
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    "They"? LOL
     
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    They = SDNY
     
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    Which =LOL
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Strange that you find funny that your president is an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal prosecution, but to each their own....
     
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    And lemme guess......You can obstruct unless you committed the crime n the first place ?

    You guys dont live in reality

    The POTUS had a deal in the works with RUSSIA, lied about it while campaigning to be POTUS, and now its OK because he didn’t get the deal?

    I cant wait until the 2020 election so I can apply all these new standards set by the right:

    1. You can accept foreign help in the election
    2. You can solicit help from foreign countries
    3. You can lie about anything with impunity

    And once a democrat wins:

    1. Laws don't apply to a democrat POTUS
    2. You can tell everyone in your administration to tell congress to **** off if they ask you anything
    3. You can lie about anything with impunity and the republicans will defend you and the lie


    Ok. Got it
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah....he was the presidents lawyer whom the president threw under a bus to protect himself, so he shouldn’t be believed when he produces evidence.

    OK....Got it.
     
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    Let's say that there was a deal to build a building in RUSSIA!

    Why would that have been bad?
     
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    Apparently you don't know what SDNY stands for. Feds gave up any attempt to indict Trump for anything after Mueller report came up empty.
     
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    Oh... that's just sad on so many levels

    The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, known informally as The Mother Court, is a federal district court.

    I know where you were going, but state charges against Trump haven't happened yet...
     
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    Sorry but it's not the federal government pursuing these charges it's the state of NY.
     
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    It really wouldn't have been. Everybody knew he was a (failing) real estate developer..

    So why lie about it from day 1??

    Probably should have come out and said "I have a potential deal for a Trump building in Moscow, but I'm putting those plans on hold during the campaign". Of course, then you HAVE to put those plans on hold during the campaign, which he didn't want to do, because he fully expected to lose.
     
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    Yep.

    Nothing bad.

    No issue.

    It's fake manufactured outrage.
     
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    You really should move on....
     
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    Just the lying, not the actions themselves... and everybody KNEW he was probably lying on this topic, but that doesn't stop him....

    Of course, that's just pursing a "typical" real estate deal... When you are dealing with the Russian oligarchy, that couldn't be further from typical....

    But based on what we know today, it's just the lying...
     
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    And while we are sort of on Cohen, this doesn't sound so bad, does it?? Sure isn't Rikers is it?? See what happens when you (mostly) cooperate with the Feds??

    SNIP
    Michael Cohen, the convicted former personal lawyer to U.S. President Donald Trump, says he is making new friends in prison and enjoying time away from the spotlight, according to a person familiar with Cohen’s first few weeks there.

    “He’s loving it there,” the person told Reuters. “Peace, quiet. He wants to stay there. He’s in the gym every day. He’s loving life.”

    Cohen “hates the food,” the source said. “This is a guy who ate in all the best restaurants.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ison-life-hates-the-food-source-idUSKCN1T52H8

    LOL... he could be the first person who asks to have their sentence LENGTHENED!!!
     
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    Good idea since I've completed my task of invalidating your assertion that it's not the state of NY and their attorney general filing criminal complaints on Trump. My work here is done.
     
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    Funny how you point out in your own post that there was no deal.
     
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    Trump had discussions about a Hotel in Russia not with Russia. Said deal never came close to fruition.. That is evidence of nothing.
     
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    Motive

    Lies

    Serious question TC. If you would have know that Russia was meddling in our election on behalf of Trump, and knowing he had a deal in the works directly with the Russian government (he promised Putin a $22 million $$$ condo in the tower), would you have voted for him ?
     
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    Again, getting the deal and negotiating the deal are 2 very different things.

    One does not have to be guilty of a crime to obstruct.

    So Im sure in your next post you will be apologizing to Hillary for the Uranium One deal since you set the new standard right ?
     

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