Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

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  1. wombat

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    Can you provide evidence that the film shown to the world is not Iranians?
     
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    If the draft was restored and their children or grandchildren were on the receiving end, there would be no wars.





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    Can you provide evidence that the film shown to the world is not Israelis?






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    It is, because we said it is. Finito!

     
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    "when debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser"
    And slander as debate is lost is what the leftist in here do.
     
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    Corbyn warns about the UK Government revving up for war

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...dible-evidence-of-iran-role-in-tanker-attacks

    Hunt is one of our far right wannabe PM's.

    I was reading an article from Haaretz this morning. They do not think it was Iran and they do not think it was the US or believe they cannot say that. They came to a strange decision. It could be the Houthis. It could..but then they said this would not be in Iran's interest so if the Houthis were doing it that would mean they are not controlled from Iran...that also is true. but they came out with a strange end. They believed it would be 'best' if everyone just said it was the Houthis.

    If the UK is thinking as it sounds like it is, of getting involved in a war against Iran to cover up for the hell it is making for us over Brexit I will be very angry. Wars and the far right - to hell with them, war or not Scotland will go for independence and leave them to it.

    So it looks like Russia is spared for the meantime. The Tory far right believe that they can kill the people of Iran instead so that the idiots that voted for them and the abject poverty this will bring will not notice them privately running away with the loot.

    https://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2019/06/boris-johnsons-tax-bribe-certainly.html
     
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    The older I get and the more I learn, I now operate on the assumption that when it comes to the illicit relations and actions of the governments in Washington and Tel Aviv, reality is far worse than I can possibly imagine.
     
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    So Israelis own boats in the Gulf of Oman? Far less likely so no I dont have such evidence.

    Now do you have evidence?
     
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    In my opinion, we have very dangerous situation here. Israel wants Iran to go away, the American President want to be re-elected, and Iran is nobodies darling. I will not be surprised to see war break out and Trump get re-elected as a war President.
     
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    LOL Why don't you provide evidence that it was?
     
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    Your personal story keeps changing!
     
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    That's why one of the better news sources for Mid East information is named "If Americans Knew" because most Americans have absolutely no idea how much America's unholy alliance with Israel costs America in blood & resources.


    "If Americans Knew What Israel Is Doing! VIDEO WAS CENSORED!"
     
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    Do you think the Japanese owner and media who contradicted what Pompeop said, are among those that blame the US for everything?
     
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    Just to make sure people are aware of just how far right and war lusting the Tory Party of the UK is.

    So Corbyn says

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...dible-evidence-of-iran-role-in-tanker-attacks

    This isn't so different from a former Obama admin advisor

    This follows others saying the same thing and that it was not in Iran's interest.

    Check out how the foreign minister of the UK responds to Corbyn for him saying something similar

    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/H...e-The-Iranian-tanker-attacks-narrative-592552

    That is UK politics at the moment. The hard Right Tories do not even give the time of day to the opposition. No respect just abuse and Corporate Media have been mainstream in orchestrating this.
     
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    The initial witnessess of an event are usually pretty shaken up and rarely accurately report what happened, plus the Japanese are anxious not to get involved and may be trying to cover for
    the Iranians.
     
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    According to the Iranians they rescued 44 crew members, yet the US said that 21 from the Japanese tanker were rescued by a Dutch tug. According to Press news, 11 of the crew members in Iran are Russian, 11 are Filipinos and one is Georgian. There was also a woman covered by a veil.

    You can listen to the crew members thanking the Iranian government for saving them and for their hospitality on this video:

    https://twitter.com/PressTV?ref_src...anker-targeted-gulf-of-oman-full-health-iran/
     
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    We're not talking about one witness, so let's cut it out. What one reporter found strange, is that normally the Japanese would never go against the US government unless there's a strain in their relations. I also read that the demands the US gave the Japanese PM to present in Iran were not conducive to bettering relations - something which the Japanese sorely wanted.
     
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    We know what Israel is doing and the blood is on their hands and they will suffer for it, but what can we do about it as long as Islam believes any land that was under Islam, must return to Islam? What gives Muslims more right to claim lands that were taken away from them, than the Greeks, Bulgarians, Germans, Russians, etc.
     
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    Evidence?
     
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    When the reporters asked the rotating president of the Security Council if evidence was shown at the closed meeting, he said it wasn't even discussed - which means the US doesn't have any.
     
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    Why not?
     
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    War with Iran will only help Trump if Iran's leaders and military unconditionally surrender or are eliminated very fast.
    IOW, war with Iran will be very bad for Trump. Hence all the Deep State pressure for another war before the election.
     
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    Isn't Japan one of the few nations that is generally supportive of Iran? Why hit their tanker?
     
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    Where did the night vision video of Iranians removing a dud mine from a tanker come from?
     
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    At the least the USA should brush aside the annoying little Iranian boats, escort the tugs in and remove the ship from the game board.
     
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    Remember Iran rescued 44 people. It was suggested tonight on Real News that if that little boat was anywhere near an attacked boat it could have been there looking for people to rescue.
     

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