Joe Biden promises to 'cure cancer' if elected president

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  1. dagosa

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    And you don’t believe him ? Come on, you believe Trump, the biggest scammer of all times.
     
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    Of course. Trump was running around trying to heal everyone of VD.
     
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    You can't seem to get anything right. Once single payer is implemented, it becomes the largest part of the budget. You seem to think it is free.
     
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    Another thing you get wrong. Private insurance has one of the lowest profit margins. You seem to think government workers that has zero interest in being efficient will be more efficient. Add in all the other costs that are not included like the IRS, facilities involved and the other government organizations and I will bet money that it ends up costing more.
     
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    Haha
    Medicare A and SS are already the largest part of the budget. The difference is, it PAYS FOR IT SELF OUT OF DEDICATED FICA TAXES, and does not compete with anything else.
    Once Medicare for all is enacted, Medicaid, Chips, and Medicare parts b-f etc....will no longer be needed and participants pay dedicated taxes for healthcare and will NOT come out of the general fund which is funded mostly but income tax.
    It’s cheaper. You think healthcare will cost less from private insurers ? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
    Totally ridiculous. This is why conservatives have so many recessions and can’t handle a budget. They can’t add !

    No one else Denys AGW and no one else has a healthcare system like conservatives want. You guys are dinosaurs.
     
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    A tax by any other name. One of the reason's Medicare's funding is eroding is because of the increasing cost of healthcare. That will not change unless government does what other single payer systems do. Ration equipment and care.
     
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    There isn't a single disease called cancer. People throw thousands of different diseases together with a thousand different causes and a thousand different cures and call it cancer. Some cancers are pretty well figured out and have cure rates of pretty close to 100%. Other cancer diseases still have close to a 0% rate of recovery. To say that one will find a cure for cancer, is to display a complete lack of knowledge of what cancer really is. Or maybe claiming a panacea cure to cancer is not ignorance at all, but a cynical ploy to make a profit off of other's ignorance, such as selling alkaline water or running for president. Who knows where Biden's head is at? I would hope Biden is a cynical mountebank, as opposed to knowing so little as to not understand what a cure for cancer involves. One cannot fix stupidity.
     
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    "Scam Insurance"? Are life insurance, homeowners or auto insurance plans "scam insurance"? Your assumptions are laughable at best. We already have health insurance for the poor, it's called Medicaid.

    There are already two separate but not equal systems. If your in Medicaid (MediCal in Calif), you have to be seen specific doctors and facilities. Most likely not the ones you go to. I think that's what rubs them the wrong way. Why should WE get excellent service quickly when we work for our health insurance and they have to wait because they don't work for theirs but want the same service. Universal Health Care gives crappier health care to folks that work hard for better care now, and more expedient care for those that don't or won't work for theirs. It's typical class envy, they want what you have without working for it.
     
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    Medicaid is SOCIALISM. You do get that don’t you ?
    Crappier insurance ? What do you call insurance when you don’t have it ? Crappiest !
     
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    You re confused. You don’t know the difference between “for profit” health care and not for profit healthcare do you.
    Other developed countries would use our system if it worked. It doesn’t.
     
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    You’d think that you never read my posts. How many times do you need to be reminded that single payer healthcare costs are paid from FICA taxes. Does that sound like it’s free....?
    You’re too interested in repeating story lines then actually making rational statements. Moving on.
     
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    Why can't Democrats even give the funding required to look after people who have crossed the border and been arrested? I thought they cared deeply.
     
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    When did I say that Trump had huge crowds at his inauguration?
     
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    You mean it doesn't give away free stuff at great cost to the nation.
     
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    That’s laughable. Another platitude .
     
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    You ready to have your taxes doubled? That's what it will take for the democrats unicorn fart and stardust dreams.
     
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    By building a billion dollar wall you can cut through with a $200 sazall. Technology has made walls that can’t be protected, useless.
     
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    Your FICA taxes could easily be doubled. Again, you can’t add.
    If you want to keep donating premiums to private insurance at a much higher rate, go for it. Conservatives believe in handouts to the rich.
     
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    Your total federal tax burden would need to double to pay for the lefts unicorn farts and stardust dreams. You apparently cannot add.
     
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    Repeat after me; healthcare is paid by FICA taxes. Overall taxes like income, sales tax is unaffected.
    So, you want to continue paying insurance premiums in addition to your taxes. Interesting. No one else in the world that has universal healthcare, chooses also to continue paying huge premiums to private insurance companies.
     
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    You have to prove a wall in a deserted area works. You’re assuming that because we’re against methods that don’t work, JUST LIKE THE GOP WAS FOR TWO YEARS, we’re against border security. We’re just not buying into you’re false narratives about where illegals come from.
     
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    Universal Healthcare costs are paid from FICA for average worker donations, not the income tax. You’re income tax is totally unaffected by universal healthcare. Right now, we are paying out of general fund for Medicaid, chips and Medicare plus.

    What you’re saying will happen, is already happening. Your regular taxes ARE DOUBLING because you’re against universal healthcare.
     
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    "We" ???

    Joe Biden is part of the team in the labs trying find a cure cancer ?

    Biden sounds like a L.A. Lakers fan who always talk as if they are a member of the Lakers team and are on the court...
    "We won" !!!

    No you didn't, the Lakers won.

    How the rest of the country works...

    Green Bay Packers fan who lives in Green Bay.
    "The Packers won" !
     
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    Now wait. Trump promised to build a wall and Mexico woukd pay for it. He promised to balance the budget and bring back manufacturing jobs and ciao jobs. Joe just wants to cure cancer, that’s more impressive.
     
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    Considering all of the obstructionism and sedition Trump is delivering or has already delivered on most of his promises.

    More than any other President has in the past.
     
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