If as a Republican you think this is biased you’d best pay attention.

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Clinton was rejected, and when Trump is rejected, people will happily have the Obama policies reinstituted.
     
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    *LOL*

    Yep. Admitting that he'd accept foreign help in an election is "being on a roll", alright.
     
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    A whopping % rejected Trumpery in the 2018 elections.
     
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    You realize that he lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes, don't you?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course he did no such thing but the low information voters are not bright enough to understand that.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No They Do Not. They pay far less than they ought, considering the benefits they get.

    Society largely EXISTS to benefit rich people, to enable their wealth to grow and to protect it. We non-wealthy only get any use out of the system that WE pay for (mainly, we pay less but we are many and the rich few) very peripherally

    I am not against that either, our system is called Capitalism for a reason, and rich people should not be crushed under the burden of what protecting and benefiting their wealth actually costs, or nobody would try to get rich. I recognize that I have to make my employer more than my salary or he has no reason to employ me

    What I object to is things like the government charging me a premium if I buy a foreigner's superior and cheaper product rather than a shoddy and expensive commodity made by my countryman or having to pay for someone's literally insane paranoid fantasy of international menace rather than protect me from actual and real depraved gunmen who are stalking our malls and being equipped by our laws, things like that.

    And to update Huey Long. A billion dollars is enough for anyone.
     
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    Is your hearing impaired?

    He said exactly that, and further stated that the FBI Director was “”wrong” when he said that candidates needed to report contacts by foreigners.
     
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    He speculated on a hypothetical as any business man does. The left still thinks words ARE action.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And in that speculation he stated categorically that he WOULD do the illegal thing if he got the chance AND he actually invited a foreign nation to help him. Now that is planning something illegal and the invitation to someone else is an overt act. He's guilty of conspiracy. Lock him up.
     
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    Words. They mean things. Especially coming from the "presuhdint" when he invites foreign interference.

    "Businessmen" don't bumble around "speculating" that they'd knowingly accept foreign help in an election and claim that the FBI Director is "wrong" for stating that such contacts need to be reported.

    I'm not even sure how a "businessman" would be accepting illegal foreign help in an election. Maybe you need to clarify what you mean.
     
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    Actually, no he didn't. You are making things up but that is par for the course.
     
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    So you think if he talks to the queen of England he needs to contact the FBI, who works for the President, and report it. LOL
     
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    *LOL*

    You're even trying to use his moronic analogies!

    Only if the Queen is offering dirt for the election. Then he should immediately contact the FBI.
     
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    Only if the Queen of England is providing him with opposition research. LOL.
     
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    What did he say then? And if you won't quote it I will assume you are the one making things up
     
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    Seems to be the leftist tactics these days. Accuse someone of saying something and then when asked to source it they respond with ,oh yeah, prove he didn't say it. In honest debate all quotes or even paraphrased quotes should be sourced.
     
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    Just insert the video of Bonespurs' word salad here.
     
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    Actually I've been studying the Constitution for decades. While I may not have a little piece of paper saying I'm an expert I probably know just as much as anyone with that piece of paper. Perhaps more as I wasn't limited to just what was said in some class.

    But aside from that, the Constitution is quite clear on what powers pertain to the federal government. Anyone with at least a 9th grade education can tell what powers they have and understand what may and may not apply.
     
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    Actually there is a limit. That limit is what The People decide is the limit. You over tax too much and there will initially just be people leaving. Eventually there will be a war. That is and has been proven through out history. Grab too much and you will regret it. That isn't a threat or a promise. Its just simple fact.

    Actually that is incorrect. Those imposing the taxes have the onus of proving WHY such taxation is needed and that it is valid. They are after all the ones proposing the taxes. Not me.
     
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    A few fallacies here. 1. The government is NOT your first line of defense against crazed lunatics with guns. It's insane to think that that is even possible it suggests an omnipresent government, something none of us wants.

    Buy top quality products made by American craftsmen.

    We have jobs because of those billionaires.

    The government is not a good vehicle for determining who should have how much wealth.
     
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    The Queen is NOT offering to provide him with CAMPAIGN DIRT on his opponent.

    But is says VOLUMES that you are AVOIDING the actual INTENT of your BLOTUS to commit yet another crime.
     
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    Your FAILURE to substantiate this debunked allegation of yours only harms your credibility when it comes to to the Constitution.
     
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    The government is just about everyone's ONLY line of defense against crazed lunatics who cut people down from a sniper's nest several hundred feet above them or the trunk of a car. We've not yet had to deal with REAL terrorism, which to me is a hundred or so snipers in an urban area. The only way to obviate that even a little is to end ALL the guns entirely and even then you're just improving everyone's odds just a little.

    Buy top quality products period. American craftsman should re-establish their reputation as the best in the world, which they will never do if protected by tariffs.

    We have jobs because we have made those billionaires their billions. Owners are a necessary and vital part of Capitalism but workers are its heart; each equally dependent on the other and both fully entitled to the fruits of their labors as the system dictates. Truly left to itself and not being made to benefit EITHER worker or entrepreneur Capitalism produces undoubtedly the greatest good for the greatest number but that situation, paradoxically, is possibly the most demanding of government as it requires a really bipartisan, totally honest and ethically hardworking body of administrators to function properly.

    You may be right there. Capitalism itself caps incomes if functioning properly.
     
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    Trump mentioned Norway and the left melts down. The left doesn’t realize this is exactly what democrats did numerous times during the 2016 election. You have been played.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure the existence of the US and its Constitution is not proof for you.
     
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