Two oil tankers struck in suspected attacks in Gulf of Oman

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  1. Mac-7

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    Thanks for the peek into your fantasy world

    Lets do it again sometime - not
     
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    You're wasting your time. Reasonablerob lives in an alternative fantasy world devoid of facts
     
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    Iran is a theocratic police state. How moral is that?
     
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    Says the guy who lives in own fantasy world.
     
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    Iran attacks a Nowegian ship and a Japanese ship ... and no one cares.

    Can you imagine the outcry if it was the U.S. that attacked those ships?
     
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    This above is a strange post - So because we wanted Saddam to be our ally - instead of the Soviets ( at a time when the cold war was over and the Union was in a state of collapse) this made it ok for Saddam to use chemical weapons and for us to support Saddam while using these weapons and after he used them - killing not just Iranians but also his own people.

    If this is the bar - then there is no bar. China, Russia, Israel and every other nation might as well just use them whenever it tickles their fancy on the basis of some nonsense excuse like the one put forward.

    You are welcome to your opinion of course - that we should just forget about the Geneva convention and subsequent Chemical weapons treaties - I just do not share it.
     
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    The video convinces me, that does look like one of those Revolutionary Guard speedboats.
     
  8. truth and justice

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    That is quite necessary when carrying out false flag events
     
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    No, it was not ... except that Mossadegh was not even a bit of a communist.
    But the American persecutory delusion concerning evil Communists everywhere and everything that even calls itself social is already communist, that is known.

    Wrong ... the Gladio units didn't make a fart without permission from Langley ... and at this time the communsit party in Italy became more and more stronger ... means ... the communist haters became panic in Langley and Washington!

    Yes, but with all reason and it was the americans who shot first, not the evil communist North Vietnamese Navy ... and this all happened in North Vietnamese territory where the Maddox had no right to be in!

    {QUOTE]What the hell does 'doine' mean?{/QUOTE]

    Typing error ... "done confirmation"!

    Wrong ... totally wrong!

    The Yanks were and are not a spark better as the Russkies! They did the same evil things out of same reasons at least.

    But it is just this American hypocrisy and Arrognaz, which is here again and again clear and which then really cause hate against the US!

    When the Russians bombed a suspicious village in Afghanistan in the 1980's, where Mudjahedin were iinside and a couple of dozen innocent civilians were killed ... then the Russians were again the devil!
    If, 15 years earlier, the US also bombed a village in Vietnam where there were a few Viet Cong in it and the US jets killed a few dozen innocent civilians as well ... then of course that was different ... and in the end it was even here the civilians own guilt for being killed!
     
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    The folks at the top make the tough decisions and act for the greater good, don't look for faceless men scapegoats, there is no conspiracy.
     
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    Of course they did, they couldn't let the Iranians win.
     
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    Lol .... and when they tell you that it is good for the USA if 1+1 is now 3 and not further 2, you will agree for sure!
     
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    1. Either learn to write English properly or sober up or both.
    2. The Taliban wouldn't give AQ up, once they'd been toppled the Allies were left with Afghanistan and couldn't just abandon it, also they couldn't let the Taliban regain power.
    3. Individuals in Saudi backed AQ, not the government.
    4. AQ has been VERY active in Saudi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_the_Arabian_Peninsula
    5. Do give me evidence that Obama armed AQ in Syria?
     
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    No, this is the real world where people have to make tough decisions in unrealistic time frames with incomplete info. Let me guess, you never served in the military or police or intelligence services?
     
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    And also perfectly OK that they had not condemned Saddam's poison gas attacks on Kurds and Iranians, etc.
    Funny that it was first 1990 topic and was suddenly deeply evil ... but of course only the poison gas attacks on the Kurds. The poison gas attacks on the Iranians were OK?

    You know that the occupation and hostage-taking in the US Embassy in 1979 was actually fully justified? Of course not ... how would you know that the CIA unlawfully used the US Embassy as the basis for a counter-coup to bring the Shah back to power ... and if you know, of course this action of the CIA is perfectly OK, as is the fact that the CIA massively assisted in the torture of Iranian opposition under the Shah ... which, of course, brought the United States a great many friends eunter the mullahs.

    You are truly an example of American hypocrisy, arrogance and ignorance.
     
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    Let me guess you did never serve ... because I did 6 years and I was also in combat action too ... as sniper and rank depending to a US First Seargent!

    This is though world where it is bullcrap to blame the other one for doing bad if you do the same bad things by your own! Such a crappy behavior will bounce badly back into your face like an echo!
     
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    1. No, he allied himself with the Tudeh communist party and took money from Moscow, he was another Castro in the making.
    2. Yes the West was rightly concerned at the loss of Italy to communism but no one ordered the Gladio networks into terrorist acts, the far right just exploited their arms caches.
    3. No, America is one of the freest and most democratic nations on earth whilst the USSR was an utter tyranny. How do you defend a country that uses soldiers and barbed wires to stop its' population leaving?
    4. The Russians invaded Afghanistan to impose their tyranny, the US was trying to save South Vietnam from tyranny and turn it into another South Korea.
     
  18. truth and justice

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    LOL You tell a poster to learn to write English then you write the incomprehensible paragraph number 2 containing many grammatical errors! Was that paragraph written by a 5 year old or was it translated from a different language? Have you ever heard of full stops?
     
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    Of course not, Saddam was our boy and kept the Iranians down. If FDR can work with Stalin...?
    Oh come on, the US embassy had exactly 3 CIA operative in it! And I'm not an example of American anything.
     
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    I did, I used them and the paragraph is grammatically correct.
     
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    I did five years, served in the Fleet Protection Group and patrolled the Persian Gulf.

    'Depending' to a US First Seargent? I think we might believe you if you could spell Sergeant correctly?
     
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    LOL "The Taliban wouldn't give AQ up, once they'd been toppled the Allies were left with Afghanistan and couldn't just abandon it, also they couldn't let the Taliban regain power."

    Are you 5 years old or drunk? You clearly failed the CSE or O'level or GCSE in English.
     
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    Actually got an A at both GCSE and A-level. So yah boo sucks to you!:bounce:
     
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    Nonsense ... he oppose them so far and denied that USSR send a negotiation team. Read Operation Ajax thoroughly and then you see it clear that he was no cimmunist and this was a CIA / MI6 lie!

    Wrong ... the knwon facts speak another language...

    Do I defend USSR? No ... they did evil for sure!
    But why do you defend the barbery of yur country please?

    Lol .... to back a bloody dictator is saving a country from tyranny? Since when?
    But OK, the US are well known to back worst scum of dictators in cold was as far as they were strong anti communist. Who cares about human rights, democracy etc. in such cases.... core values of the self declared greatest democracy on this planet, but only valid for others f not disturbing US interests!
     
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    So again Us hypocrisy ... if poison gas used against opponents of the US, then it is OK. So why shall anyone on this planet then give a damn on your point of view and trust you?

    Come on ... there are plenty of US documents captured by the Iranians in embassy telling another story...
    Ask yourself why the mullahs allowed suddenly the capture of the emabssy!
     
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