Is President Trump mentally ill?

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Is President Trump mentally ill?

  1. Yes, clearly so

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  2. No, not at all

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    46.4%
  3. I don't know, but I suspect that he has a disorder

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  1. StarFox

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    Go ahead and name one single democrat running in 2020 that is not a narcissist.
     
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    You're right, except for their massive charitable contributions.
     
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    Pocahontas, because she is for da people, even palefaces.
     
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    Will you still be laughing when the institutions that guarantee your personal freedoms, relent & become subjects of Trump himself? I believe it was just yesterday that Trump made the comment, "I control this country." Obama never questioned the Constitution or the three branches of government. He was very careful to do what he could within the limits of the Constitution. Trump doesn't care enough about the Constitution to even read it, much less protect it or follow it. He's constantly challenging it with his self-serving actions, keeping everyone in government & outside it, in a state of unrelenting stress. Neither Trump or his supporters care a whit about the Constitution or democratic principles. Like him, they only care about themselves. Trump & his supporters will be remembered as a dark spot in American history.
     
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    You'll be on your deathbed just getting ready to pop your clogs and still believe that nonsense.

    There's a sharp distinction between being "rough around the edges" and being an incompetent jackass. He's the latter.
     
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    Actually this is nothing new for the press. In the beginning of the civil war when Sherman was responsible for the defense of Kentucky and he suffered from overwork and exhaustion and returned home for a few weeks R&R his critics in the press of whom there were many due to his history and friendships in the South claimed he had gone insane and completely fabricated things he did that supposedly proved he was insane. This was an attempt by them to destroy his army career and keep him out of the war. New day same ole crap.
     
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    Depending on charitable donations is a difficult path to survival.
     
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    I am sympathetic to Trump, though I voted Libertarian, because his critics are so obnoxious, anticipating the 4th Reich, economicdisaster, and worldwide nuclear conflagration even before he was elected.

    Which of you Trump detractors ever really gave him a fair shot? Are any of you embarrassed by your predictions of his defeat, and then world catastrophe, followed by belief in Russianc collusion, followed by obstruction of justice, impeding discovery of a crime that was never committed?

    No one in business ever called him mentally ill. Crooked, but not crazy.
    Now that he crushed liberal dreams, he's a psycopath, a colluder, an obstructionist, a threat to world peace. Hey, whatever sticks, right?
     
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    Pure horse hockey. Obama’s unconstitutional DACA for example.
     
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    I love it! If I could take 120 million and make 3.1 BILLION out of it (according to Forbes), I would laugh my ass off at any clot of bottom-feeders who contend that I'm "incompetent".... :lol:

    [​IMG]. "Hey, Trump! You're, like, so INCOMPETENT, and stuff...!" :spin:
     
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    On what basis?
     
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    On the basis that he said he could not do it constitutionally for 1 1/2 years before he did it.
     
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    Uh, no.

    Source?

    Bonespurs J. Bumblefuck says he can "do anything he wants".
     
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    Source, Obama.
     
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    He is. He inherited a great deal of money when Fred died, and was paid a great deal of money as a child, teen and young adult. You've seen the NYT story on that.

    In addition to the tax-dodging pay he received while his daddy was alive, he inherited a good chunk:

    https://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-success-story/

    In 1999, when patriarch Fred Trump died, he left behind a handsome estate valued at $250 to $300 million. Although the exact amount Donald Trump inherited is unknown, an October 2018 report in The New York Times based on tax returns and financial statements from his businesses estimated that inheritance to be close to $413 million during the course of his lifetime. This figure has not been confirmed by Trump or the organization.

    Even though he received a huge head start, he's not remotely near the top of NY developers. Compare him to Zyggy Wilf, for example. That guy really did start with nothing, and he's a great deal more successful than incompetent orange pretenders:

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all

    Between 1985 and 1994, the Times story says, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.”

    Finally, Bonespurs isn't rich because he's even mediocre at business--he's rich because daddy was rich:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/donald-trump-index-fund

    In an outstanding piece for National Journal, reporter S.V. Dáte notes that in 1974, the real estate empire of Trump's father, Fred, was worth about $200 million. Trump is one of five siblings, making his stake at that time worth about $40 million. If someone were to invest $40 million in a S&P 500 index in August 1974, reinvest all dividends, not cash out and have to pay capital gains, and pay nothing in investment fees, he'd wind up with about $3.4 billion come August 2015, according to Don't Quit Your Day Job's handy S&P calculator. If one factors in dividend taxes and a fee of 0.15 percent — which is triple Vanguard's actual fee for an exchange-traded S&P 500 fund — the total only falls to $2.3 billion.
     
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    A real source. Not your flawed memory. Read my link and dispute it with a real argument. If you can.
     
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    You can't pick and choose what taxes you wish to pay because we all don't agree on what government should be doing and what we will pay for. I wouldn't pay one red cent of taxes for Trump's tariffs and I'd still buy everything from China, should that be the way we do things?
     
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    Yes, Nemmy, we can agree that Trump inherited great wealth. The children of wealthy parents inherit wealth all the time. I think we've already covered that.

    The important thing, though, is to increase the wealth instead of pissing it away (like the children of many wealthy people do). The wonderful world of investing is full of many 'thrills, chills, and spills' (unless you're one of the Federal Reserve's too-big-to-fail protégés). Trump wasn't one of these pampered Wall Streeters -- nevertheless, Forbes (you DO know who Forbes is... right?) states that Donald Trump's wealth is currently $3.1 billion dollars. That's about TWENTY-SIX TIMES as much money as he inherited from his father....

    Armchair, 'Monday morning quarterbacks' on the financial scene can play "wouda, coulda, shoulda" games with Trump's investment/management performance, but one last time -- anybody who can increase his worth by a factor of TWENTY-SIX TIMES is no dummy in my book....

    But the criticism will continue.... Poor Democrats! The 'Mueller Report" blew up in their faces and so now they have to dredge the political toilet to try to find anything conceivable to use to condemn Trump with, including his 'competence'...(?). 8)
     
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    We, those who are taxed and who actually PAY taxes, should indeed have the commanding say in everyone should be taxed FOR.

    You should not be taxed simply because you EXIST (as Obamacare does). You should not have to pay well over half of your property taxes to support public schools if you don't have children IN THEM. Your property taxes, if you never had children, should go entirely to things you DO use -- streets, roads, bridges, police, fire departments, etc., etc.

    Now, tariffs...? I have to agree with you (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) about 'buying from China' -- mostly because we've painted our stupid selves in such a corner since the fall of the Soviet Union that the huge majority of much of what we buy is made ONLY in China. The truth? You and I both will go on buying stuff from China -- because we HAVE to, and whether or not we hate tariffs, hate Trump, and/or hate a half-dozen other things is immaterial.

    Out of curiosity, how would YOU handle the situation with China -- one in which the Chinese steal our technology, ignore our patents and copyrights, and manipulate currencies? Maybe you think we should just revert to "business as usual", as it was under Idiot "W" Bush and Idiot Obama...?
     
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    Who else has Bonespurs made rich? Certainly not the contractors that he's stiffed.

    How about responding to my post instead of posting slogans and "like, the Mueller Report, and stuff!!" (which is nothing like you're implicitly claiming here)?

    Bonespurs is a moron. He inherited a load of money, not to mention very important business and banking contacts, from daddy. He then proceeded to piss his wealth away on ill-conceived investments, only to be saved by a carefully contrived "image".

    There are people who've started out with nothing and are much wealthier than Commander Bonespurs. He had a massive head start.
     
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    Ah, the rancor.... "Bonespurs" never went to charm school, and because he doesn't gush all the time about 'inclusiveness', and 'diversity', he's a pariah among Democrats -- primarily because he's committed to crippling welfare-state liberal Democrats and their socialistic, America-hating agenda.

    If you don't like the Forbes calculation of Trump's wealth, then take it up with Forbes. If you know better than Forbes what Trump is worth, I'm sure that their editors will be more than happy to bow down before your superior expertise....

    Poor, butt-hurt Democrats. How pathetic. But, please -- go straight forward with your wonderous impeachment effort. We need some fresh, hilarious entertainment, and it's going to be a LONG summer. Especially when the DOJ comes out with more and more evidence about who REALLY 'colluded' with the Russians.... :roflol:
     
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    I'll take Obama's DACA over Trump's permanent family separation policy, which I believe is unconstitutional as well.
     
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    The education part of your taxes is paying for YOUR education, not your children's

    Here are 10 things I would do, all of which are better than Trump's taxes on foreign made goods

    https://www.realclearpolicy.com/art...antilism_here_are_10_alternatives_110605.html
     
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    So, instead of responding to the numerous sources that I posted, you're staggering around screaming about impeachment?

    Hold your horses. That time will come. What you ought to do in the meantime is formulate response to my post.
     

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