The First Black President: Twice as Many Voters Say TRUMP Better for Blacks Than Barack Obama

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  1. 61falcon

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    More right wing delusion!!
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah.. because its conservatives that are dividing groups my race, sex, religion, and income.

    LMAO
     
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    Sure thing (although it should be noted for the mods that this is not an actual bet for money because that is against PF rules).

    I said nearly 100% of the increase, so shall we set the margin at 90 or higher?

    And how would you go about establishing the trend? You need the demographic and ideological breakdown for that specific question. Does Rasmussen provide that readily?
     
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    ...you realize that the OP is a conservative, citing a conservative publication, that is discussing a topic specifically as it relates to one race, right?
     
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    As probably measured by non-blacks.

    Who cares what their opinion is again?
     
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    Self made, rofl. Trump not only inherited the very company his name now sit upon, Elizabeth Trump & Son Co. but over 400 BILLION in various stages which he has struggled to even keep on pace with the the stock market.

    If that is self made I would I guess that make Paris Hilton also self made.

    Absolutely delusional
     
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    Speaking of delusional.
     
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    33% better 36% worse under trump
    13% better howmany worse under Obama ?

    lets take a look
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ions_have_gotten_worse_since_obama_s_election

    do we have a 60% worse under Obama ? seems we do.
    only slightly worse then Trump isnt it ;)
     
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    Still surprising that blacks voted massively for Obama twice in a row.
     
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    You've linked to a poll about RACE RELATIONS not people's lives. That's a completely different topic than the one that's being discussed. As for your poll topic, everyone knows that race relations were outstanding before and after Obama. That poll result is a perfect reflection of reality :wink:.

     
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    Republicans are better for African-Americans, historically and currently
     
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    Conservatives are so desperate for news that they agree with that they will turn to articles with egregious typos.
     
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    the poll suggests otherwise
     
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    pretty silly to compare polls that ask two different questions.

    one poll asks about blacks in general, the other asks about young blacks.

    there is a difference.
     
  16. struth

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    It’s just reality. The GOP freed the slaves, created the 14th amendment, 15th and civil rights...and of course now you have trump and gop policies creating a booming economy and jobs.
     
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    Kennedy and Johnson were Democrats, bro.

    meanwhile today Republican Conservatives argue that the Civil Rights Act should be scrapped
     
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    What you really should have said is that no one in the right wing noise bubble expect anything better.

    After all, right wingers in general, and Trumpsters in particular, are a very uncritical audience, easily taken in by memes that confirm their existing prejudices.

    Once that itch is scratched, they need look no further, and seldom do.

    Which is how trashy political tabloid blogs like Gateway Pundit, Daily Caller, PJMedia continue to exist.

    None of them are legitimate news sources, and none of them adhere to any professional standards of any sort. Nor do their audiences expect them to.

    Their sole mission is to promote right wing causes and deliver the Trump/Fox audience to the clickbait and the fundraisers.

    Walk the story back and you find several things.

    VoteLabs is not a polling organization. It is a political marketing operation similar to Cambridge Analytica. It made no effort whatsoever to anonymize it’s poll, which was solely conducted on moble devices (using over 100 platforms and apps). Anonymization is one of the first rules of polling. If you pick you sample,the way VoterLabs admits to doing, you are also picking your results.

    In case you don’t know what this mean, it’s the kind of “survey” that usually pops up unbidden on your FB, Instagram or Twitter feed (or in you e-mail) that comes from an organization you never heard of, usually attached to a fake news story designed to appeal to the target, and almost always accompanied by a fundraising solicitation.

    The polling industry knows that this sort of poll is notoriously inaccurate, as noted by VoterLabs themselves, when they admit that their result have an 8% swing in them.

    And since this press release was fed to the very sort of right wing blogs and right wing scam fundraisers that VoterLabs is selling its service to, it’s a great marketing piece for them too.
     
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  19. struth

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    I was referring to them, but it was nice to have some Dems jump ship.

    Nobody is arguing to scrap the civil rights act
     
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    These guys make Rasmussen look professional!

    But this is not polling. They’re marketing their micro targeting to professional fundraisers, which are rife in the right wing noise bubble.
     
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    They already got the guts of the Voting Rights Act.

    And GOP legislatures in states across the South introduced modernized Jim Crow efforts, only to be largely batted down by the courts.

    Rand Paul famously said that he thought Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a mistake, even when given a chance to clarify his remarks.
     
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    Good point.

    And you can be certain that a big part of Trump's 2020 strategy (just like in 2016), will revolve around appealing to veiled (and not so veiled) racism.

    In 2016, the tacit support of White Supremacists made up a crucial part of Trump's winning coalition (especially in places like PA, MI, and WI).:flagus:
     
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    some folks on this forum are
     
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    Except that you're referring to the "Dixiecrats". They were the southern slave-holders and opposed to civil rights. You know which party the southern conservatives belong to today?

    The GOP.

    Your argument is beyond fallacious.
     
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    I'm sorry...when did the GOP pass legislation gutting the Voting rights act?
    Got any examples of the GOP moderizing the Dems Jim Crow laws?

    That was one person's views...and well his dad's too...but their views have nothing to do with race, the opposing was based on their libertarian views and how the law impacts employers.
     

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