Berlin denies american veterans "Raisin Bombers" to throw candy and to land at Berlin Airport

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

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    No, I agree with Sobo on this one. Considering pretty much the entire country consisted of Nazi's, Nazi-sympathizers, Nazi employees, and Nazi collaborators who had no qualms throwing people into ovens, mass executions, gassing, and starving people to death for no real reason outside of racism, we really should have completely blockaded them and not thrown any food at them.

    At all.
     
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    You degrade yourselves and don't even know it. None of the Allies have to prove it when Germans prove it themselves.
     
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    Next year let's just send swarms of pigeons over Berlin instead.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Candy from the sky is your concern?
     
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    It's strange that two-three minutes of research is apparently too much to ask. Instead it's the old let's play my-country-is-better-than-your-country nonsense and let's throw some childish insults in there too.
    Here's what happened.
    A private association called Förderverein Luftbrücke Berlin 70 was in charge of the whole thing. Unfortunately they didn't organise it very well. Local authorities said the association didn't hand in the needed documents on time and what they handed in was incomplete. Authorities extended the deadline asking the organisers to meet the legal requirements for such an event and hand in the missing documents. That didn't happen, hence the local government in Berlin (not the federal government - that's something completely different) cancelled certain parts of the event.
    This meant the aircraft flew over parts of the city but didn't land at Tempelhof Airport which is basically a museum today and has been out of use for eleven years. Spectators were very unhappy with that and many people later sent letters and emails of complaint to the organisers and local politicians.
    Other cities allowed the aircrat to land (e.g. Wiesbaden, Erfurt) and newspapers criticized the decision saying local authorities in Berlin should have thought about an alternative plan and assist the organisers who seemingly were not too competent.
    However, there was a celebration at said Tempelhof Airport with was attended by some 45,000 visitors. Last Tuesday foreign minister Maas commemorated the airlift and cities which served as airports back then had organised their own memorial events. It didn't work out in the city of Berlin.
    The federal state of Berlin (not the city of Berlin) commemorated the airlift with an event on 12th May. Feel free to go back to throwing insults around.
    https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/lan...omber-piloten-rechnen-mit-berliner-politik-ab
    https://www.merkur.de/politik/luftb...-pilot-ist-richtig-angepisst-zr-12444558.html
    https://www.merkur.de/politik/aussenminister-maas-wuerdigt-70-jahre-luftbruecke-zr-9982951.html
     
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    big freaken deal, so they were not allowed to throw objects down on a crowd of civilians and their children that could poke a eye out or something

    Trump can do that at his parade here if he wants to risk it

    so on July forth can we expect Trump to have airplanes drop loads of candy on children

    I think we are nit picking here
     
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    Of course, that's just going to upset the hypocritical right wing "MAGA hat bearer" again ... and we're back to the evil Krauts as always ... yawn ...

    Only: would these veterans have been allowed to do so under US law on Washington DC ... by law in the USDA .... and without directly raising a squadron of F-15s and seeing it as a terrorist threat?

    The answer is no!

    So why shall we allow it in Germany?
     
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    I am a big defender of the US actions, but even I don’t have the illusions that the US is always acting to spread freedom and liberty. If that were the case we wouldn’t have North Korea and China, and Africa would be a democratic paradise. The US acts in own self interest, just like every other country in this world.
     
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    Down here we say, "Throw me something, Mister!" and have high hopes it will be a Moon Pie and not just beads.
     
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    Yup, we dont want it.

    Who pays the clean up of that garbage?

    Who pays for damage if it destroys something? Falling down from several hundred meters + aircraft speed can add some serious velocity.

    We live in 2019, you can fly some old DC-3 here and it was allowed that they landed in Erfurt for example. But not this pathetic propaganda show. And seriously, i dont want a 98 year old to fly over me. I would not even allow this guy to drive a car.
     
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    It's a carnival like in Rio and yes I believe parades and carnivals are worldwide events. And yes believe universally, except in Germany I guess, little children love candy and especially free candy thrown to them.
     
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    What was the propaganda?
     
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    Parades are not worldwide events. In Germany its only in very limited areas in Northrhine Westfalia. In Thüringen we have no parades and carnival not in evry area.

    And no, in Germany we actually teach childrn to eat nothig from the dirt.

    It was a propaganda show for some old zombies trying to feel good about something that happened 70 years ago.

    Guess what? Its 2019 and Germans dont depend on candy thrown from airplanes.

    Also what role would the german citizens play? The oooo so thankful people waiting for candy thrown on them from an airplane?

    You know what? The children from then had a horrible childhood. They went through this **** and many dont want be remembered to that time.
     
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    Even though I think that the gesture of dropping candy was well intentioned, I can understand how today's industrious Germans would be offended.

    On a more practical note, littering the the countryside with candy would not be good for wild and/or domestic animals.
     
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    Simple question, if one throws food on someone, thats not degrading? It says: You only live because i feed you."

    It basicly reduces you to pet status. Human beings dont function like this.

    This stunt was not meant to bring Germans and americans on eye sight. Throwing candy on someone is insulting.

    Imagine you walk on street and i throw some penny infront your feet.
     
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    We should've just let the Soviets **** you to death.
     
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    I guess it isn't just "progressive" American millennials who are entitled ungrateful brats with no respect for their elders and with little or no knowledge (or appreciation) of history.....
     
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    Im not from Berlin. I´m from Weimar. :)

    But your comment amuses me and shows how selfcentered you are.

    Its like you coming to a "friend" and telling him that you want throw candy on him in a parade to show how great friends we are.

    And when the friend tells you, that he wants no candy thrown on his lawn your response is, that he and his family should be dead.

    So much for friendship and it shows clearly, that events like this are only meant to make yourself fear better. Once a nation resists such behavior you throw even the most low insults.
     
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    I have respect for our elders. None of the pilots were german. They are not "my elders".
     
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    Re:
    Actually only 6% - 10% of the entire German population were members of the Nazi Party that also included some Jewish Nazi party members(1).


    "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of Jewish descent."CONTINUED
     
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    You realize I'm saying we 1) shouldn't have bothered to contest the soviets for Germany at all. We should have let them have their way with you because you're a 2 time pack of ungrateful *******s who have always been more trouble than you're worth. You act as if this is the first such insult you've (here referring to your nation generally and to yourself specifically) offered. Its a ****ing war and war aftermath memorial, don't pretend like an ****ing air parade makes you a *******ned slave. You present as an adult male of Teutonic origin, not a vapid 15 yr old girl. Ease off the drama 2) Weimar was in east Germany controlled by the soviets. Hell they turned Buchenwald into a soviet camp ffs.
     
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    Weird that this thread comes up in the same week that a right wing group in Germany assassinated a pro-migrant politician.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...threat-after-politicians-murder-idUSKCN1TJ1WJ
     
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    False and just one of many examples

    "The biggest event of the season is Rose Monday, when 74 decorated floats, 67 tractors, and 50 Ford Trucks promenade for 3 hours through a 6km track of downtown Cologne. Performers in the parade toss sweets, flowers, and plush toys to the spectators, the vast majority of whom are dressed in their wackiest costume. The parade also tends to be filled with political satire, with many floats featuring caricatures of European politicians."
    https://www.mybucketlistevents.com/german-festivals-bucket-list/



    What's the propaganda message.

    And you were elected their spokesman when?
     
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    There is no drama. You make it the drama. We blocked this event and that was it. No drama at all.

    We have been more trouble than we are worth. Really? Most say we are quite important part of humanity. Alot of tech we use today was invented by Germany. X-Rays, vaccination, jet engines, car, rocket engine, nuclear power, chemical fertilizer.

    As an adult male of teutonic origin i tell you i dont want candy thrown on me. What i do like is to watch an old aircraft. Interesting machine. You can land them here and i would very much like to check it out.
     
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    Was it a 'propaganda show' in 1948? Now the Germans suck up to the Russians and propagandize against the Americans. There is not a lot positive you can say about the culture of the German people. https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/berlin-airlift
     
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