The Only 2016 Campaign That Deliberately Colluded With Russians Was Hillary Clinton’s

I'm not seeing where he got loans from Russians in your links...I see, and it's been well known he looked into building a hotel in Moscow...that's been known since the 80s. It's true he, and others, tried to work to break the Iron Curtain and free millions from the horrors of socialism.

 

You are kidding, yes? Trump freeing millions "from the horrors of socialism"? He saw a way to line his pockets and nothing more.

Former Trump associate accused of trying to launder stolen money ...
https://thinkprogress.org/felix-sater-trump-business-partner-accused-laundering-stolen...

 

Of course he wanted to make money...that's what happens in a capitalist society...the benefit of breaking the Iron Curtain was ending and freeing millions from socialism as well.

Satar has cooperated with the Govt, and no links to his illegal activities have been estabished with the Pres

 

Trump may have been skimming, otherwise known as money laundering, and he had help. I am aware of the ways of making money.

 

I don't recall having ever mentioned anything about Downer, nor do I see how it might serve as a desperately needed diversion from the pertinent reality:

"Russia's goals were to ... denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency.
We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."
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Accepting information from foreign nationals that is used against a political opponent during a campaign is not the issue anymore?

 

Well actually skimming isn't money laundering...but with that said, I'm not sure on what you are referring...since there was never any deal done in Russia.

With that said, if you have proof of you accusations bring it to the authorities

 

The Only 2016 Campaign That Deliberately Colluded With Russians Was Hillary Clinton’s
Unlike Trump, Clinton did the right thing with the Steele Dossier--they reported it to the FBI. You are enabling the propagandists.

 

Skimming is taking cash. Not an accusation because it has been discussed ad nausea on tv other than Fox. Fox is a shill for Trump and they will not discuss the possibility of money laundering. Trump has been bankrupted at least 5 times and has come out whole. What is wrong with that equation? Ignorance is bliss, yes? There are too many coincidences with this guy. Somp'n ain't right.
Mueller said that there is something there a but not enough proof to indict.

 

Not sure what Fox has to do with anything.

What evidence do you have to support he was skimming money. Why was he laudering money?

Trump has never personally declared bankrupty...he has had businesses go through it...that's the point of setting up a corporation or LLC, to protect one personally...so of course he'd come out whole. If you had a grasp of bankrupty and corp. law you'd understand that equation.

If there is not enough proof to indict, and I agree with your conclusion and Mueller's...then that means there's nothing there.

 

Mueller cannot indict, as per DOJ policy

 

No hard evidence but much coincidence and bankruptcies and suspicions.
When you clean the cash out of a corporate bank account, the corporation may go under and you do not. I certainly have a grasp of corporate law since my business of 30 years was a corporation, and If I had drained the cash out of my corporation the corporation would have gone under and I would have suffered little financial difficulty, like Trump. Normally, a person would insert personal funds into the business that is suffering and borrow from a BANK. I don't think that you understand how it normally works.

"If there is not enough proof to indict," there is nothing there? Really? Wrong.

 

yeah but he could have recommended an indictment....but he didn't...and as poster I replied to stated there wasn't enough proof for that

 

"The references to Trubnikov and Surkov, which have not previously been reported, are not definitive proof that either were sources for Steele’s dossier or that they were involved in an effort to collect blackmail material on Trump."
https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/16/steele-dossier-sources-state-department/

That is the kind of bullshit this whole worthless, conspiratorial thread is based on.

It's all just more desperation from desperate Trumpers desperately trying to muddy the waters because they can not abide the idea the fool they voted for is a conman guilty of obstruction of justice.............who duped them.

If you want to learn about the oranges........sorry........origins of the dossier read this. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ssian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

NEXT.

 

Well yes, Congress can impeach him, but they can't bring criminal charges. Depends on what you mean by exoneration. I think it's agreed that the report said there was no knowing collusion with Russia and while Mueller said there were actions that could possibly be considered obstruction, Barr basically said none rose to the level of a crime and many will say there was no obstruction since none of his actions had any affect on the investigation. Now because Dems will swear that some of those actions were proof of obstruction, they will feel he is not exonerated. That's just useless splitting of hairs since whatever you want to call it, Trump was declared not guilty by the top ranking law enforcement official.

 

Yeah right, as if Dems haven't been doing that all along. Need I remind you of all the obvious crimes committed by the Obama admin that was ignored or flooded with get out of jail free cards otherwise known as immunity agreements.

 

What suspensions? He has never declared personal bankrupty.

He didn't clear hte cash out of a corporate bank account, the Trump Organization is still around.

You apparently don't or you'd understand that corp law protects you individual from liablity.

If you have any evidence he drained his business out of cash you can certainly provide it. The reality is his Casino was in business for 16 years, did a prepackage bankrupty in the early 90s, and he keep the business after that turning it around and selling in 2006

 

Not "suspensions", but "suspicions". Trump owns many corporations. Exactly, corporate law protects the individual and that is one reason why corporations are formed and if an individual drains the cash out of his corporation, it goes bankrupt. Please don't tell me about corporate law. Been there, done that. You? Apparently not.

 

Well no, there are many reasons for a business to go bankrupt...if one person "drains" the money he is liable to the shareholders.

I am just assuming you don't know anything about it, because you continue to highlight how little you know by your post. For example you claimed the President went bankrupt a number of times....if you knew anything about Corp law you'd know that is just untrue...moreover, if you took the time to even know one thing about the President's prior businesses you'd know about the Casino I told you about. The simple fact is that you don't know anything and are repeating leftist talking points without knowing the facts. It's very alarming.

 

You are indeed clueless. How is he liable to shareholders and I am not repeating 'leftist' talking points. What was your business and what did you do? Sounds like you don't know much about corporations and the law.

 

One would be liable to other shareholders if he drained the money. Because the shareholders have a stake in the business. Wow...this is Corp Law 101.

 

You didn't answer my question, Struth. Trump's corporations probably don't have shareholders, genius, except for a few such as Russian investors who are involved like Trump. His businesses are what is called "closely held". Corporation law 101.

 

So there aren't shareholders, but if there are shareholders they are all Russian? And you wonder why I say you are simply repeating left wing talking points?

A closely held corporation still has shareholders...and having shareholders means he would still have a fiduciary duty to the shareholders and thus liability to them if he took all the money out of the company. Thanks...come again.

 

So your idea is that the parties are free from criticism because the previous party was also corrupt.

So neither party is accountable to their constituents, wonderful

 

Struth, you have still not answered my question and your threads indicate your naivety and ignorance of business practices.
What do you or did you do for money all your life? Easy question, yes? You comment on things that you know little or nothing about.
Can I Invest in Trump's Companies? | Credit.com

https://blog.credit.com/2017/01/can-i-invest-in-trumps-companies-164696/

Trump's investments are in private companies for obvious reasons, not in publically held companies.
You need to do your due diligence on your president. Read some books about him. A professor at the U of Penn has said that
Trump was the dumbest student he had ever had in 31 years of teaching. Also, he has never been a true CEO, and he has never been a true Republican, but he is a fufnick Republican.