DOJ sides with Treasury over Dem demands for POTUS Trump’s tax returns: ‘Can’t have them.'

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hey, somebody is capable of reading the full law... Props....

    But that's how it will eventually happen...
     
  2. The Mello Guy

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    That’s why congress wants the financial data
     
  3. icehole3

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    I think you committed murder can I see your tax returns?
     
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    As soon as I’m elected president
     
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    Basically a moribund law from 1924. If refused it goes to court and that may end up changing the law as political hacks in Congress could go after anyone's tax returns if they are a political rival. As David French points out they can only be considered during a 'closed executive session' and even the taxpayer in question is not supposed to be known but as has been very apparent democrats will stop at nothing to leak to the press.
     
  6. struth

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    Yeah...but then what? It's not as if the Dems can do anything with it
     
  7. icehole3

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    No one would run if they were found guilty before they attempted to run.
     
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    I dunno, Hillary did.
     
  9. icehole3

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    Dang you got me.
     
  10. struth

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    They don't have the authority to investigate crimes....if they have probable cause, or someone there does...they need to turn it over to law enforcement to investigate the crime
     
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    What do you expect is in them that was not in his financial report that he was required and did submit? EMTR

    Why? Who cares if he pays the taxes he owes?
     
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    What? His emtr is disclosed.
    Why? To highlight how the super rich manipulate the system.
    Who cares? Not republicans but they don’t care about anything negative in this administration. It’s actually worse than I witnessed with Obama and I though that was impossible.

    He hasn’t released them for one reason, it would not play well with moderates.

    His base is locked in at around 40% even if he would declare war on Canada and cede parts of the country to private companies.

    His opposition is locked in around 45% even if he cured cancer and brought would peace.

    That leaves the moderates.
     
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    I wonder did we have that right when Obama was president. Would it have been okay to scour his and Mooches bank records to see where their money came from? I mean we should have a right to know how a guy that was in charge of bringing potato salad to community picnics ended up with an expensive house in an affluent neighborhood if he was going to be our president.
     
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    They didn't care one bit about anything Obama did, the right vetted him but the left didn't care 1 bit. Then they come here whining about Trump's taxes please spare me.
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  15. Egoboy

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    Me thinks you need to review WHY that law was implemented in 1924 and how many times it has been used since then to go after political rivals....
     
  16. Egoboy

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    Sure they can

    SNIP
    As a bipartisan Senate Finance Committee report stated: “Although the principal purpose of section 6103 is to protect taxpayer-specific information, section 6103 also clearly contemplates the need for the public disclosure in compelling circumstances, and it establishes a formal and carefully considered process for a release: a submission by one of the tax committees to the House or Senate.

    The House Ways and Means Committee has exercised this discretion once before regarding a president’s tax returns. In 1974, then-House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Wilbur Mills invoked Section 6103(f) to submit to the full House a report from the JCT regarding President Richard Nixon’s tax avoidance. The report, which concluded that Nixon owed nearly $500,000 in additional tax, contained information that Nixon had given to Congress but had not made public.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...ident-trump-cannot-hide-tax-returns-congress/
     
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    Like now?
     
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    In both cases Nixon and the Obama's IRS targeting scandal the taxpayers consented They can not make specific information about tax payers public....the key word "(1), EXCEPT that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure"

    That does not exclude any Committee..that's controling.

    Either way it's moot...the request will be made, and challenged in Court...and the DOJ has already took the stance they have no right to it, and won't prosecute...like the DOJ didn't prosecute Holder when he was held in Contempt
     
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    See ya in Court... enjoy your party's lawlessness in the meantime....
     
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    what is Dirty Donald hiding?

    did anyone really think the Barr lapdog would not side with Trump, he passed the loyalty to Trump test...
     
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  21. struth

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    I don't think exercising your right to challenge the Govt in a Court of Law is lawless...that's why the Constitution provides for Art III....I mean, it's Stalin like to removing the Courts and just expect people to roll over for you because you command something.
     
  22. Egoboy

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    It's the law dude... What SHOULD be happening, if you want things to go the way you want it to go, is the DOJ should be telling Mnuchin he has to furnish, then Mnuchin should have to be the one challenging the law in court.

    It shouldn't have to be on Congress to take this to court, since the law is 1000% clearly on their side here... that's beyond mixed up and proves once and for all that the current top DOJ officials are beyond politically corrupt...

    The court will find for the Congressional position, but again, any delay is a good delay for Trump..
     
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    The DOJ disagrees with you....so what happens is we got to Court and the Court says what the law is. That's how we do things in a place like the United States and not a socialist regime ran by Stalinist views.

    Sure it should be up to Congress since they want it. I don't think it's 1000 percent clear, considering the DOJ disagrees with you.
     

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