What are some of your favorite YouTube information sources?

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Yes I disagree with Dore alot but he has principles and in this day and age deserves respect imo
     
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    There are some good commentators on youtube that have original things to say but you have to find them.

    I used to read books more and still read. I read everything orwell ever wrote. BTW there is a movie version of Keep the Aspidistra Flying titled A Merry War. I liked it.

    I did not care much about the anti BDS laws because they are stupid virtue signalling and not likely constitutional or enforceable. They are like the anti abortion laws that conflict with Roe. I did not buy anything from Israel today. So throw ime in jail.

    If you want an author with some interesting thoughts try NN Taleb, Fooled by Randomness (2nd ed).
     
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    I forgot another one
    China Uncensored. Concise, kinda funny, gets to the point. Fact and specifics oriented.
    I am not a China hater. They should do what is best for China which is not the same as what is good for the US. A couple examples below.



     
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    What bothers me about the left wing journalists is that it is very hard to map their words into facts or things. A former SCOTUS justice said "Think things, not words." Talking heads started talking about "Russian collusion" long ago. Outside of anti trust law collusion is not a crime and what is it anyway? If they could define it then we could decide how many candidates have done it.

    Kim Iversen says she is progressive but seems to be able to dig down and requires sources.

    What is 'meddling'in US elections? Foreign govts pour millions into the US especially DC lobbying firms to influence US politics. China took out a five page spread in an IA paper prior to mid terms. Was that meddling? Should we throw out their diplomats? Russia paid for $5K in FB ads and people ran around with their hair on fire.

    Liberals seem unable to quantify things. See unskilled immigration costs and benefits. See renewable energy.
     
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    "Youtube information sources"?

    Good God....
     
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    Youtube offers a lot that other media doesn't. Print media is just words and pictures. Cable and TV are very expensive to operate and top heavy with lots of people off camera who are in charge, and the actual faces you see are reduced to talking heads reading from a script. With youtube, one guy can do literally everything, from showing videos, to screen shots of news articles, provide links, and it can all be done with nothing more than a youtube account and a mobile phone.

    They also have something else which is a comment section for people to say whatever they want, and other youtubers can respond.

    If you can think of a better medium, then what is it?
     
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    Youtube is entertainment.

    If that's any part of your information input...you're a friggin idiot
     
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    Honestly, political YouTubers are a pretty bad place for getting information, once you get the establishment, anti-establishment paradigm. Once you get this paradigm, political YouTubers, both left and right, are incredibly misleading, not educated enough on the issues, use omission as a tactic to bolster their arguments, and the list goes on, in short, not good for getting information.

    One of these guys is Secular Talk. I used to love Secular Talk, when I was a progressive, and still do to some extent on foreign policy issues, but on economic issues, all he's got is literally, 'muh rich people,' 'the majority of the American people believe it, so it must be good, and if your not on board with what the people believe you're wrong', as well as a lack of economic thought and understanding of the negative effects of his policies, and a really shallow view of the intricacies of each issues.

    The true way to get information, is to research independent studies, data, and other detailed information, and draw your conclusion on the issues from this information, as well as to use the mainstream media, which does have solid journalists, and incorporate your ideology, as to why things are the way they are, and what should change. The mainstream is always pro-establishment, that is why you must draw your own conclusions. There is also no problem, with using alternative media sites, one very popular on the right, is ZeroHedge, the other on the left, TruthDig.

    In short, think and educate for yourself. Don't mindlessly believe political YouTubers, many of which are hacks and frauds, who don't believe what they say, and are also very shallow, uneducated, emotional and misleading on the issues.
     
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    So let me get this straight, you commented on a thread asking about alternative news sources even though you don't use them just to say how smart you are and everyone else is "friggin idiots"?

    Seems like perfect material for r/iamverysmart

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    Nice PSA but no one was saying what you do after you've seen an issue brought up. Unless you have boundless free time to search the .gov laws themselves every source you get is biased in some form or fashion. What you do after you've seen a highlighted issue is on you. My preferred method is to get information from both sides perspective and if I'm really worked up about an issue to go find the corresponding .gov website with the actual law. Any narrative can be made using facts or ommiting them
     
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    There are a lot of very very knowledgeable guys on youtube. For political content, I admit that it's pretty piss poor, but I think that has to do with how politics is very personal, so it's bound to be biased towards a particular ideology.

    If we had just one politician in the entire country who knew as much about politics as jeffreestar knows about makeup, I'd vote for him in a second.
     
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    It is the case, that not many people have the time, to look at the data, and I will admit that there are some YouTubers where you can first gain some knowledge as a noobie on the issues, and the anti-establishment, establishment paradigm, but once you reach a certain point of knowledge on the issues, more often than not people just blindly believe the political YouTubers, and get coerced into believing what they say through the YouTubers bias and omission, and lack of understanding. This confirms the viewers bias in the beginning, and over-time making the viewers gullible, and mindless believers, in the medium to long term. Trust me, this happened to me, as well.

    If you don't have the time to research the issues and look at the data, than sure some political YouTubers can be useful, but there are plenty of incredibly intelligent academics, scholars on both sides, who are anti-establishment, which people can get ideas and information from.
     
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    As for youtube being entertainment, sure! This doesn't mean they aren't knowledgeable. The best example I can think of off-hand is a drinking game between James May and Richard Hammond trying to put together some lego models while answering questions every minute related to cars posed by internet people. If they got it wrong, they had to take a shot of "not vodka".

    They're drinking shots of vodka, trying to put together incredibly complicated lego sets, and answering questions like "what is special about the person who invented the turn signal?" and getting it right!


    If you can find anything as entertaining as that anywhere else, I'd love to hear about it.
     
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    I do that as well. Often I find that one side offers lots of details and the other is vague. If both sides offer conflicting facts then that is different but that is usually not the case. I find many you tube sources are more accurate than broadcast TV by far.
     
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    I would say that alternative media, does do a more accurate interpretation of the facts particularly on foreign policy, than the mainstream establishment press.
     
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    Here's a stupid youtube video I watched earlier. It features stupid uninteresting people discussing stupid uninteresting things.

    It's not a book or MSM source, so I'm probably more stupider for having watched it. My IQ has probably been compromised, likewise my capacity for being a pretentious d-bag.

    So, you should probably just read a book that's already been read by one of these stupid people, or tune in to MSM, or be super eccentric/batshit crazy and scour the internet for obscure data.

    Whatever you do, don't watch the video. Should you watch the video, be sure to report back and let us know why these people are stupid, and don't worry about explaining how it is that you've not accomplished anything like they have, despite being more intelligent and interesting.

     
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    Yeah, I've watched a youtube feed of a news story or talk show that I missed or didn't record.
     
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    Not all of them are, OAN is news and probably considered alternate media.
    https://www.oann.com/
     
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    That's because they mostly spew rhetoric and not facts.
     
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    I was responding to the OPs list of YouTubers. Nobody had even mentioned that website or any other at that point in the discussion.
     
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    If you want to learn how to play chopsticks on the piano and don't want to spend the time to become a real pianist...youtube is great

    If you want to "catch up" on politics...you can get a similarly abbreviated (and biased) "lesson" as well...

    Neither will give you the kind of knowledge you claim to want...but hey...you "don't have the time"
     
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    How do you first find out about an issue? Unless you are finding out through .gov websites your sources are no better. They all write from one perspective and it's your job to check both perspectives. But go ahead and continue to tell us how smart you are. I'd of thought a super genius wouldn't even click on something they don't do. Seems like that would be a more efficient use of your time
     
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    This is the interweb buddy. There's all SORTS of sources.

    WTF
     
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    Youtube is just a content aggregator like any other. Your local book store or library is no different. Its the book you choose to read, or the post you choose to watch that determines whether you're being entertained, educated, both or neither, not the delivery method.

    I've gained quite a lot of potentially life saving knowledge from youtube. Here is a sample:



    The coronary artery calcium test Mr. Cummins talks about in this talk could save your life.
     
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