Self-Driving Cars

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    To quote James May, "They've already invented driverless cars. They're called taxis".
     
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    Tracked down stopped and arrested at the second, hence the privacy concerns. Whose going to want to buy a car that pretty much looks like every other car on road, that they can order up in 15 minutes and is tracked by GPS and can be remotely turned on and off.
     
  3. BobbyJoe

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    Weren't you talking about not owning cars...driverless taxis?
     
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    Yes I was that's part and parcel of it someone was talking about trying to steal one.
     
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    Millenials, GenYers and GenXers don't really use those. Don't you know about Uber and Lyft?

     
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    As someone who has been using self driving vehicles for at least 15 years, I certainly have concerns. Will they be safer than the average driver of today? Probably.

    When accidents do happen who will be blamed? Who gets sued? Because someone will certainly be sued unless we ban attorneys. :)

    Whole systems will go down. Will everyone just sit there for hours or drive manually? What’s going to happen when a bunch of fools who have never driven much are loose on roads not designed for human drivers?

    There are vast swaths of the country without the communications infrastructure to support self driving vehicles. They will be limited to metropolitan areas and interstates in my opinion.

    If we ever implement self driving vehicles on a large scale, it will reduce the IQ of everyone another few points. Look what gps and turn by turn prompts did to everybody’s ability to take/give directions, read a map, or even care about knowing what direction is North
     
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    People will be able to do all sorts of things while traveling instead of wasting time reading a map.

    Think of the time and stress and danger and death and injuries people have faced since the advent of the car and traffic.

    Driving, for the most part, makes people dumb and it's a huge waste of time, and often lives.

    Everything has it's good and bad points....the internet and smartphones can be a massive waste of time and a horrible addiction (and worse). On the other hand, they have changed the world in tons of ways for the better.
     
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    Oh you don’t have to tell me the advantages. I’ve been loving what the technology has been doing for me for years. It’s revolutionized my business. I would not want to go back to the days before it existed.

    I’m just attempting to bring people back down to reality. Just because it has great aspects doesn’t mean we can ignore the obstacles or negative aspects. That’s not logical. I hope we can overcome all the obstacles, and we may, but it isn’t going to be soon on a large scale.
     
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    You do realise that not only driverless cars will one day not have steering wheels which will make stealing a car a little difficult but also what would the thief do with that car - you won't be able to sell it on as there won't be a demand for one and every movement is being tracked
     
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    They have had a handful of fatal accidents. I think one of the biggest issues is liability. Who is at fault when one of these cars screws up? If a driver is still required, how much will he pay attention to the road when the car is doing all the work?
     
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    Insurance.
    That's how you will know when they are safe.
     
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    Every tracking device can be removed. The cars parts are worth more than the car. Go get one. Who cares? They're going to be too expensive for a lot of people.
     
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    Actually the decline in being able to give directions began years before the GPS. When I was a kid in the 1970s and started driving in the 1980s, any convenience store clerk could pretty much give you directions to get to your destination. That stopped sometime in the 2000s--I can recall several times either giving directions to other drivers because the clerks didn't know the directions, or being given directions by other customers (not the clerks who had no idea). Thankfully GPS came in just after that.
     
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    For minor fender benders, the car owner and his insurance will be responsible. My guess is that major wrecks will end up with an inquiry like the FAA currently does--to determine fault.
     
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    Once you join idiot central and use a self driving car (when available) you become nothing but a package to be shipped when and only when you're allowed by the government. Because in the end the government WILL control their use.

    For me, not now not ever.
     
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    I can drive better than any computer.

    I was watching one of those "Why Planes Crash" shows last night. The onboard computer on a Qantas flight over the Indian Ocean went bad and forced the nose of the plane down. Fortunately, the pilot disabled the computer and they landed at a nearby airport. 100 people with broken bones, but no deaths.

    I won't ever trust computers.
     
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    I love my human controlled vehicles.
    I love the idea of autonomous vehicles.
    I hate the idea of mixing the two in the same physical spaces!

    Most people fear the autonomous vehicle will run amok and cause big problems.
    I fear human drivers, based on empirical data, are the ones who run amok!
     
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    self driving cars are just the beginning. Its estimated that computers will surpass human intelligence in all areas within the next 10 to 15 years. They're already smarter than us in narrowly focused areas. Ray Kurzweil has been studying this most of his life and has an amazing record of accurate predictions for future tech developments.

     
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