Iran Shoots Down US Drone

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  1. FlamingLib

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    I've been seeing a lot of skepticism about the military's claim this drone was in international airspace. It's almost like we've had a President that for two years has bashed his own government, lied constantly, and now Americans don't know who to believe.
     
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    It sounds like you're undecided about it. So am I. I don't think it warrants anything too serious.
     
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    He campaigned on make America great again and lead instead of follow as Obama did. He campaigned on fixing Obama's lackluster economy. Obama was the one that bent over for the world to "get along".
     
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    We dishonored our end of the deal, and they can do the same. What is going on now it really dumb foreign policy. Something like this, or worse, was guaranteed to happen.
     
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    not undecided, can't retaliate for infringing someone elses' territory for intel. otoh, if it was shot down in someone elses' territory, we could be forced to defend that country's airspace... it also goes without saying, that iran has the absolute right to declare war on the usa for sending a spy plane in it's airspace... will they be so bold?
     
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    You libs have guessed at Trump's every step and have been wrong 100% of the time but you never let up with the sky falling. You all wanted to arm them with nukes, so nobody buys into your what ifs.
     
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    Our economy was doing just fine and making a great recovery from the Bush disaster. Trump hasn't changed it, but he's got the greedy speculators going wild on the stock markets.
     
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    1.5% avg GDP is fine? LOL Obama called that "the new normal". Trump proved him wrong.
     
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    Our deal? Congress never passed the treaty with Iran so it was not our deal. It was Obama's deal signed by him and him alone. He's gone if you hadn't noticed and Obama part two was rejected by the voters.
     
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    This is dishonest. Before Obama was even sworn-in the economy was in free fall, shedding 700,000 jobs a month in Oct. alone.
     
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    Eight years with average 1.5 GDP that Obama called " the new normal". No lie, just fact.
     
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    Nope that's wrong the iran deal was bad. Delaying iran getting nukes is not near good though. In fact there is no good in it.
    All iran needs to know is that we will not allow them to have nukes.
     
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    Correction. Trump inherited one of the longest expansions of the US economy in history, after coming back from the brink of a full blown depression brought on by rightwing neconservative bloodlust, and despite his best efforts, hasnt managed to destroy it yet.


    Just thought people should know the truth.
     
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    that and if Iran had drones spying on us, would we shoot them down, so I doubt war will start over this
     
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    GDP includes government spending, even on military. So yeah, Trump found a way to increase the GDP. In a very pointless and fiscally irresponsible way. Yay.
     
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    "no deal" is worse

    now that we have seen Trump's deal with NK and Mexico... we know a Trump deal is no deal at all
     
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    I dont believe shooting down the drone needs a military response. I also believe that drone was in Iranian airspace on an electronic snooping mission. We use these drones because they are "disposable" and dont put lives in jeopardy.
     
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    GDP included government spending in Obama's day as well.
     
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    No US flag ship was attacked in the Strait. This time it was US property that was attacked. If the drone was shot down in Iranian airspace Iran should have recovered pieces of the drone.
     
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    Again, this is dishonest since Obama had no control over the economy he inherited, which was in free fall. It took years to climb out of the whole that was dug. To include those first Great Recession years in Obama's "average" is very misleading. And of course you know this.
     
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    Of course it did. Obama spent less than Trump is, and he was reducing the deficit.
     
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    If it was shot down over Iranian airspace then Iran should be able to recover pieces of it. A US naval vessel is en route to recover it so I don't believe Iran would allow a US naval ship in their waters.
     
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    We have no complaint about them going over the enrichment limit. We withdrew from that agreement.
    The last drone they shot down ended up in Iran so it wouldn't be the first time we violated their air space.
     
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