Stop it! Refugees are NOT a problem!

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So are you saying that to process illegal immigrants properly we need to get rid of our army?
     
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    First we need to secure our borders and port of entries even if it takes putting the Army on the border.

    In fact all immigration should be stopped until our borders are secured.

    After over thirty years after the IRAC Act of 86 the Democratic party has made it very clear, they want open borders, uncontrolled immigration and basically **** canning U.S. citizenship.

    The Democratic party is no longer nationalist but internationalist, a world with no borders allowing the free movement of people.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah. Thanks for understanding. Nothing personal but deprogramming cult mentality requires professional help. I am just not qualified.

    And it's better to use our time providing facts to people who can actually accept facts. Though they are growing increasingly scarce among Trump followers. It's useless to show facts to people who blindly follow the Trumpist dogma not to believe your own eyes

    -"Just remember what you’re seeing and what you're reading is not what’s happening" -Donald Trump
    -"Truth isn't truth" - Rudy Giuliani
    -"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
    -George Orwell (1984)

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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many have tried Play-Dough for dealing with TDS.

    I don't think that therapy worked to well.

    Now they are trying socialism
     
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  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's overwhelmed, in no small part, because Trump shut down programs like CAM (see link I sent) which helped make it less overwhelmed.

    Please try to focus. When you jump into a discussion, read the context of the message you respond to.
     
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    Bullshit. The illegals are taught specific words to throw at the US Border Patrol and the top if the list is, "refugee". If you believed your own tripe you would be angered that Mexico forces them march 2300 miles in flip flops and a tee shirt through their country and dumps them on the US. I can't imagine your motives but every viillage..
     
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    Maybe they should go to Costa Rica.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not always interested in the context of your message.
     
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    But you just said Costa Rica can do it because they don't have an Army. For heaven's sake you make up your mind!

    Why the hell would we wan all immigration stopped?

    Quote please

    Good God! The Democratic party has never been a nationalist party. I'd stop being a Democrat the second they became a Nazi Party.

    Nor, for that matter, was the Republican Party before Trump.

    "Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first. "
    -Charles de Gaulle​
     
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    Yupper, no problem,
     
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    It was a problem then and it is a problem now.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    You realize the crisis at the border, due to Dems refusal to fund border security, isn't about refugees, but illegals, and potential asylum seekers....asylum seekers aren't the same as refugees. If they did what refugees did we wouldn't be having this problem.
     
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    What? Are you understanding what you're responding to?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Maybe Trump should go to Costa Rica.

    Come to think of it... it's not unlikely that that won't actually happen. I'm not sure we have an extradition treaty with Costa Rica.
     
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    So that's supposed to be your excuse as to why you don't understand what the debate is about?
     
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    Oh yeah? Maybe I'm a racist. What do you think?
     
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    When people are under direct threat of death/war/famine, they do NOT travel across several safer nations to reach one with cushier benefits. They stop at the first safe harbour (which is precisely why refugees are defined thusly). As soon as they set foot out of that first safe harbour, they loose refugee status and become economic migrants.

    If you want to stop that massive influx of economic migrants, and focus your efforts instead on refugees, you're going to have to build your wall.
     
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    America has no refugees or asylum seekers entering under their own steam, because America has no borders with nations designated as war or famine zones (etc). Unless they're coming from Syria or some other recognised source of refugees, they are economic migrants.
     
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    No such thing in America unless you're flying them in from Syria or famine stricken Africa.
     
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    Are either of those bordering America? If not, then no deal. America is not their 'nearest safe habour'.
     
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    They are if they're not refugees. And they ain't.
     
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    Because neither party wants to fix our horrific immigration system.
     
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    I have friends who waited two years on some festering island .. living in shacks. They wouldn't have dreamed of coming in illegally, they were happy to just be out of the war zone.
     
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    This seems odd. Don't millions of Westerners vacation in Mexico every year?

    Yet no one is taking vacays in Syria.
     
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    Trump isn't trying to flee and oppressive regime.
    In order to be extradited one must have committed a criminal act. Oh you have from your precious Mueller report is obstruction of a fraudulent investigation. You can't legally obstruct a fraudulent investigation. If you obstruct a fraudulent investigation you are not obstructing justice you are assisting Justice.

    The investigation began with the Steele dossier ironically collusion between the Democrat Party in foreign governments to try and obstruct an election.
     

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