Republican's Latest Monumental Faux Pas

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If it's weak then why is it still standing after 50 years?



That doesn't answer my question:
If it's weak then why is it still standing after 50 years?

And RvW was a good ruling that has protected women's rights for 50 years...no, it shouldn't have been needed at all but there were those who insisted "women have no rights and must be controlled"

It's not murder and if you think it is then why haven't you done your civic duty and called the cops !!!???

 

Yeah voter turnout is high often 150% of registered voters..

 

Because it gets ignored of course. All though more than few cops will tell you strictly off the record that they'd cheerfully shut the abattoir if they could.

 

Very good point

 

And those cops wouldn’t be male and Catholic I presume?

Interesting choice of words “abattoir”

Do you have any real idea what an abortion typically entails? Increasingly it is a matter of taking a couple of pills

 

BALONEY!

If you call the police and say you want to report a murder they respond….YOU are squirming….they don't respond because it isn't murder...

 

It was a CONSERVATIVE court that decided the RvW ruling and that means it was made for CONSERVATIVE political goals and that CONSERVATIVE justices don't understand the Constitution.

 

In the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson, over time, with the back and forth of the parties, the laws end up being what the majority of the people want. Roe vs Wade has stood for 50 years because the majority of the people want it. Same reason as to why marihuana is becoming legal. The majority of the people want it to be legal.

There is a kind of moral reckoning that comes about in the long run. Take, for example, slavery and discrimination against Blacks. Even with the slavery and the worse treatments Blacks received, over time, by the back and forth of politics, blacks were first freed, and then eventually given equal rights. Even the current backlash against the advances that have been made, are part of the process. It goes back and forth, but with each swing, we arrive more and more at the morally correct course.

This was the America, the shinning city on the hill that Jefferson envisioned, the back and forth of men's passions arriving at the morally correct course. By just about every metric, we are all much better off, much more free, and have many more rights than the people who lived in the US at its founding. Many, especially conservatives, are caught up in the moment, but the ugliness that Trump has been flailing about with has really opened up a lot of eyes. Wait for the swing to come roaring back.

 

It is about the moral direction of the body politic, not the desires of a select group. As much as you want to call abortion murder, there are more who see it differently. The moral center of our society says that the termination of unwanted pregnancies is acceptable. In a fair and just society, that is what the laws reflect.

 

To the dead how they got that way is largely immaterial.Ever seen a miscarriage at week ten?

 

Yes and the moral center of the country once thought Dread Scott was just fine and that Plessy vs Ferguson wonderful. The center is just the center it is frequently neither moral nor interested it just wants to not be bothered.

 

Yes
It was 18 weeks but the woman was not going to survive unless the pregnancy was terminated

We all grieved as this was a wanted pregnancy, like most later abortions they are almost invariably done because something has gone heart rendingly wrong.

 

And that exception was available in every state in the union pre Roe.

 

But it continually shifts toward more liberal views on issues regarding woman's rights. It rarely turns back the clock. We've already tried anti-abortion laws. They did not work.

If anti-abortionists spent their time raising money for better health care for expectant mothers and better facilities for premie babies, they would save more lives than wasting their time on trying to pass laws that will be disregarded with the same frequency that pot laws are. Trying to turn back time is a waste of effort. Raising money for incubators and well-baby clinics saves children's lives.

 

Yes biput who are you to judge what is threatening a woman’s life and what is not? Up until last year we had not one but three anti abortion laws in our criminal code and our abortion rate of legal abortions rivalled states where there was no legal limit.

If a woman is booked in for a D&C who will breach privacy and check her chart to ensure it it is for partial miscarriage and not an abortion?

Same reason why England’s abortion laws do not work

 

I don't the doctors do as they did then.

 

The Constitution alludes to common law. "In all cases arising in Law or Equity...". That's Common Law and Equity Law, two intertwined legal traditions. The Constitution merely codifies the role of the US government and gives very little direction to the courts. It doesn't need to; it is, in effect, a common law charter.