Childish men are to blame for women having kids late in life

Hello,

I think that the author of this article doesn't understand something :
Men doesn't own women anything. They don't own them to be partner, or father of their children.
If they don't want to engage in a long career, if they prefer to play video games and chat on the internet, that's their choice and she has no right to comment about it.

I love the bitterness of the author of this article.
"Almost 60 percent of women rate successful parenting as one of the most important parts of life, while only 47 percent of young men do, according to Pew."
"And millennial men? They’re lagging behind."

That kind of article put a smile on my face.

 

I didn't saw it was a 2 year old article, still funny.

 

Why wouldn't she have no right to comment about it?
Last I looked, most of us had a right to comment on pretty much anything she wants.

Why? Sounds like its describing the eventual breakdown of our society.

 

Because she don't have any right to says how men have to live their lives, as men don't have any right to tell women how to live their lives.

There is a proverb in my native language which is quite hard to translate, but I will try :
God laugh at the one who complain about the consequences of the causes they cherish.

Which make me thing that the old man must laugh a lot.

 

Of course they have that right. That said, the other person has a right to ignore them. Women have a right to tell men how to live their lives and vice versa. Men have a right to ignore women who tell them how to live their lives and vice versa.

 

Interestingly, the article isn't really about "childish men."

"Susan, 41, a single senior marketing executive from the Upper East Side, is eight months pregnant. After waiting for her match and not finding him, she decided to have a baby on her own.

And then there’s Joanna, from the Upper West Side, who tells me that at age 32, she stepped off the partner track at her law firm, halving her salary to work in the firm’s marketing department, so she could focus on landing a husband. But at 39, Joanna is still single and childless — and unsatisfied in her career."

These women are not dealing with childish men, they just can't land the man they feel they deserve. This seems to be a problem in New York City and few other dating markets where the massive supply of successful people works to prevent them from ever settling down. For men, if you are at the top of your game, you don't really have a clock and if you don't marry until after 40, that's perfectly fine. You can still have a family. For women however, fertility begins to decline after 30 so if you are still trying to move up the dating ladder, you are probably never getting married. What do you think "Susan, 41" did from the time she graduated college till now? Twenty years and she couldn't find a man? I don't believe it. And Joanna, now 39 claims she's been looking for a husband for 7 years, but if she really is looking to have a family, what family minded guy is looking for a 39 year old woman?

 

@Lil Mike Well, a part of the answer is because they don't want to marry "down", at least, it's what state the article. Apparently, men would have less difficulties to marry women of lower condition than them, where it would be apparently more difficult for women. The article state "Women want an equal partner". Equal on what point ? I interpreted from a professionnal point of view.

That's maybe just a feeling, but for men, dating need a lot of money, because they will still pay the bill most of the times and pay the access to most dating websites, and they spend a lot aswell.

And let's state the obvious : most men today are left "empty" because of porn mostly, and have less time to spend to dating because of the massive amount of time they spend on video games.
Furthermore, apparently, more and more men find more satisfaction in "bromance" than romance.

 

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I would like to see a picture of these women. They just may not be of the quality to wrangle the type of successful guy they think they deserve.

 

New York has a pretty high cost of living. People are delaying formation of families trying to have a better standard of living.

Or at least young middle class professionals are.

 

You can't have it all. Opportunity cost is real. You always have to give something up to get what is most important to you. Just the way it is.

 

Ephesians 5:22-33 says women ought to be submissive, they do not have the right to speak out of turn in a marriage

it is the man's say when her eggs may naturally hatch

 

It says submissive. It says nothing about the right to speak out of turn in a marriage. It also says we are to be submissive to one another. Love the way liberals try to twist scripture.

 

What man seriously wants to jump into planting his seed inside a woman in the modern world. As soon as he does he's at the mercy of the system and that woman.

It takes years and years to trust, be sure that it will last and get a picture that woman will not completly **** you over if the relationship ends.

No wonder modern men don't want to have babies because of the risk involved if the women turns out to be a psycho.

 

Wow! Seeing a picture of a woman defines her quality. You are Clearly telling us a woman’s worth as her looks...

 

That's a rather glib comment considering the context of the conversation and the thread topic, which you've contributed nothing until now.

And as a contribution it's rather limited.

 

Well it's true. I don't know why you are surprised. Looks are an important part of attraction, maybe they are aiming too high and the men they deem as "equal" are out of their league. They can't attract a decent man, so, stomping feet time, "all men are childish"???

A huge part of a woman's worth to a man is looks, nobody wants to date a someone ugly when there are better options.... who knows they may HAVE been attractive once apon a time but waited too long, focused on other things and time has ravished these women. They could still think they hot, hence why they may be shooting our of their league?

As mentioned before in this thread these women are past their prime, the women mentioned are the wrong end of 30 , some 40+. I doubt guys who are looking for a relationship that leads to children find these women attractive.... as deep down they know the chances of having a healthy baby, even a baby at all with them are extremely limited?

 

A lot of very secure man are turned on by intelligent women. No I don’t want to get into having babies

 

Looks matter, I very much doubt an attractive guy would date an ugly women just because she's intelligent. Plenty more fish in the sea, and intelligent attractive women are not so rare.

Looks matter when selecting a partner... period.

 

Not trying to, just noting that it didn't appear you understand the context of the conversation.

 

Well, basically our look is our front window and it still determinate our first impression. Considering that men are most of the times the one which do the first step, getting a disadvantageous appearance is a bigger problem for a woman than a man.
There is a cliché about (radical) feminists to be often bittered because they're not or courted. I don't say that cliché is absolutly wrong but it is much less true that the feminist with daddy issues. That last point is almost systematical among the feminists I met and I discussed enough with.

 

Same with women being attracted to attractive men. What one considers a tractive may not be attractive to someone else. Power is very sexy and so is intelligence to some people.

 

I only load blanks at this stage of the game...

 

Yep! And that's where us older men step in. Thank you very much!

 

I've heard that a lot.YouTube may contribute as much to birth control as the pill - watching childbirth. LOL!

Beyond that, I think young men and women are looking at the success rate of marriage, what married life and especially having a family means, and they know it often doesn't have happy endings. We were sold a bill of goods. For some people, the traditional nuclear family works. But there are alternatives. And more and more people are choosing those alternatives.

I will never forget the words of a young woman I dated. She was 25 at the time. I asked if she wants to get married and have a family. She said her parents are divorced, her grandparents are all divorced, and they all hate each other. Why would she want to get married?

Open relationships are more and more common as well.