Kushner triess to bribe Palestine!!

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    No, just pointing out that repressing minorities is standard operating procedure in Islam. Israel isn't ethnic cleaning, they are targeting and killing murderous Jew-hating savages who fire thousands or rockets at them. I wish them much success.
     
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    Certainly true of the Palestinians. They just want there not to be an Israel so they can get back to fighting each other.
     
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    Exactly.

    Plus, it doesn't offer what human beings need in terms of representation, security, freedom, etc.
     
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    So, you ARE trying to justify Israel's approach.

    And, NO. Thy absolutely ARE carrying out ethnic cleansing operations in West Bank. They are buldozing people's homes. They are stealing farms and water rights. They are ruling Palestinian residents of West Bank with Israeli MILITARY law - often carried out be mercenaries.

    You keep talking about other countries. What's your point here? Are you suggesting that Israel gets to continue committing this humanitarian atrocity until all other human rights issues are fully resolved? Are you suggesting that Palestinians are responsible for all of Islam?

    Sorry, but your direction here makes no sese at all.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is blatantly FALSE.

    Both the Hamas government of Gaza and President Abbas have LONG STATED that their objective is peaceful coexistence with Israel.

    You should know that by now. It was true even during the Clinton administration.
     
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    Yet they refused to accept a peace deal when offered to them, strange.......
     
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    Absolutely.

    Only the homes of terrorists, I support that.

    That is it hypocritical to say the least for Muslims to complain about human rights. Sharia Law is gender apartheid, among many other issues.

    There aren't any atrocities.

    No but they are representative of them, the violence, the Jew-hate, the claimed victimhood, the backward society that trashed what Israel gave back to them.
     
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    Oh great, now Iran will be even more mad.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe we could have a master of diplomacy sing "You've Got a Friend" to them.
     
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    Kushner is simply doing what he and daddy have always done...the United States is nothing but a new business opportunity and this is likely to end as most Trump ventures do. The real issue will be who do we declare bankruptcy to?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You'd last about as long as him.
     
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    I wish I was as 'bankrupt' as Trump.
     
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    How many "palestinians" live peacefully inside Israel?

    Now tell me how many Israelis live peacefully inside "palestine".
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you know....no one else does. He has gone to great lengths to assure it stays that way too.
     
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    True!

    However, I am not the one claiming that lack of self-determination is what is holding the Palestinians down.
     
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    Arafat died a LONG TIME ago.

    That is NOT an excuse. We have presients who change America's agreements every 4 or 8 years. We made a deal with Iran and our president just tore it up without considering the ramifications would be.

    Now, YOU want to hold Palestinians to that ancient decision? Sorry. That is NOT an excuse.

    And, it absolutely is not an excuse for ethnic cleansing.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant

    You really are not to good at this.
    "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors"

    How the **** in your mind is that peaceful?
     
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    No, the homes and property of terrorists is NOT the only case - not by a LONG shot.

    Plus, punishing familes for the sins of a family member is a criminal act.

    Let's also remember that stolen land is given to Jewish citizens of Israel - not to Christian citizens or Arab citizens.
     
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    That's not even SLIGHTLY the issue.

    America doesn't stand as counting religion to be more important than citizenship. And, America doesn't stand for ethnic cleansing.

    And, when Israel became a state ALL those living permanently within its borders became Israel citizens.

    The nearly 500,000 Israeli civilian citizens occupying West Bank had NO such right.
     
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    That is an ancient document that Palestinian leadership of Gaza and West Bank DO NOT SUPPORT.

    You might as well consult Moses.
     
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    Lack of freedom and self-determination is what was holding US down.

    We considered that a cause for war.

    Did we change our minds now? Are our founding principles now considered garbage?
    Do we think other people don't care about what we care about?
     
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    Lots of big companies have taken advantage of bankruptcy laws, like GM. Trump is very open about it, he wrote The Art of the Comeback.
     
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    The Palestinians always cry about the right of return, what about the right of return of Jews from all the Muslim countries they've been kicked out of?
     
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    The people of Palestine say the issue is political, NOT economic.

    They see the problem as purely political - ones of freedom and self determination, the root issues that our founders found to be absolute requirements and motivated our war of revolution.

    From there, they state over an over that they are confident that they can build a strong and successful economy.

    Today, Gaza owns offshore fossil fueld fields to which they are denied access. They are denied fishing rights in their own waers, they are denied building materials, they are denied the right to EXPORT!!

    So, now Kushner wants to gie them .... MONEY???
     
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    You did not answer my question...How do you know?
     

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