If we are in a recesssion in 2020, we will get a Progressive as president, guaranteed.

I believe that if a recession hits us in 2020, the media, Dems, leftists will all blame Donald Trump and the free-market, changing the national discourse against the President so much, that we will get a Progressive as president, either a Bernie, Warren, etc. guaranteed.

What do you guys think?

 

What liberals don't understand is there is such a thing as an "economic cycle". It's normal and natural. It should not be used as an excuse to expand government.

Under capitalism, economies take 5 steps forward and then 2 steps back with a recession.

Under socialism, economies take 2 steps forward and 1 step back with a recession.

Long term, capitalism runs circles around socialism.

 

Exactly. Recessions don't occur because of so called 'under regulation', or get this' tax cuts, lmao', but the fact that the Fed keeps interests artificially low, creating high debt levels and malinvestment. Markets should determine interest rates, not some bureaucrats who are supposed to manage a big ass economy, and don't know what the **** they're doing. Central planning fails every time.

 

LMAO...Another reactionary that wants to take us back to 1929.
Yeah, let's trust the 'wealth creators' to do the right thing for the good of the country, eh?
Right-wingers should educate themselves about why rules and regulations had to be imposed in the first place. The inbred ignorance of reactionaries is appalling.

 

The economy will end up determining the election. A strong economy gets Trump re-elected. A weak economy gets any Democrat elected. Just my opinion here.

 

Another recession without a full recovery of the economy in eight years !!!!

Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it.

 

Do you really thing 'deregulation and tax cuts cause recessions', because that is about the most BS thing I have ever seen. There are thousands of regulations on the books, as if 'one or two' regulations that weren't there, caused the financial crisis.

If Fed enables cheap credit and borrowing through low interest, businesses will borrow and malinvestments will occur, resources will be misallocated. It's plain obvious.

 

I think the left is excited at the prospect of an economic downturn so you have a shot at getting Trump out of the white House -- the more people who lose their jobs and the farther the market drops, the better.
The ends, after all, justify the means.

 

Trump WILL cause a recession. He and the Republicans have been taking away all of the regulations that were put in place which helped end the great recession, and criminalized all of the unethical activities that led to it.

So it's back to business as usual for the corrupt wall street scumbags who destroyed out economy to begin with.

He's already doubled the deficit compared to what it was under Obama.. He's doing the complete opposite of what he promised (erasing the deficit by the end of his first term)

 

Wow. That's a -huge- pile of uninformed, unsupportable nonsense you have there.

 

We watch the news anchors intone the impending doom. They've been collectively trying to bust the economy even before Trump got in office. The endless news accounts of impending peril, the tanking of the markets, etc, Literally, it has been non stop. And yet, the actual consumers, the real folk out here, the real businesses aren't buying into the demand that the economy tank. So, why not look at the positives all around you, and wake up from the stupor of zealous partisanship....

 

I know... right? How else would government pay itself with taxes and power??

 

A recession will (obviously) help the Dem nominee in the Gen. Election (Biden or a Progressive).

 

Praying for it every night, eh?

 

I think progressives are responsible for Trump.

Far left Democrats like Elizabeth Warren, Julian Castro, Tom Steyer, Rahshida Tlaib, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Maxine Waters are playing right into Trump's hands by urging impeachment along with other progressive ideas.

Trump wants to be impeached. Why? So the Senate will vindicate him and he becomes a martyr, a victim of Democratic overreach in his run for President.

The Democratic leadership frowns on talk of impeachment and stresses investigations to weaken the Trump Presidency. Trump is pretty close to being unable to govern as his administration is mired in litigation. The leadership wants to run against a crippled candidate, not a martyr.

Democrats have won in the courts, and Trump remains unpopular. His Iranian fiasco has not helped him as he went into his Neville Chamberlain mode. The Democrats are already winning.

It can be argued that Bernie Sanders is directly responsible for Trump. In 2016, Sanders, an Independent from Vermont, ran against Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination. Sanders promised a lot of free stuff, free medical care, free college tuition. guaranteed income for all, and so on. As a consequence, he attracted a lot of young, naive voters facing life's uncertainties.

As we all know the Democratic National Convention chose a Democrat, Clinton. Sanders cried foul, accusing the DNC of preferential treatment toward Clinton. His young, wide-eyed followers believed him, and many of them expressed their anger by either refusing to vote or, incredible as it may seem, voted for Sanders' direct political opposite, Donald J. Trump.

Clinton lost the election by less than 80,000 votes in three states, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. It is logical to assume Trump became our President because of a progressive named Sanders. Sanders won the Wisconsin and Michigan primaries in 2016, and received nearly 732,000 votes in Pennsylvania.

Are progressives going to do it again? Or will they play it smart and wait until there is a Democratic administration before trumpeting their far left ideas?

Fully 12 percent of people who voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries voted for President Trump in the general election.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/5458...voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right

 

I think that if something like a recession should occur (and there wouldn't really have to be one for the democrats to declare one) that a substantial portion of the democrats, particularly the older more rational ones, will know that the democrats are the ones who have been the ones responsible- too many lop-sided idea, too little responsibility, too much putting politics way ahead of honor, of justice, even of law. That means back-fire; shot yourself in the foot.

 

Actually regulation does prevent recessions. One of the primary functions of the Federal Reserve is to absorb the highs and lows of the swings of the economy, making for a more stable economy. If one looks at the up and downs of the economy over the course of our country, it is quite obvious that we have had a much more stable economy since the creation of the Federal Reserve system. It was Reagan era deregulation that led to the Savings and Loans scandals, and it was lack of regulations that led to the bank failures at the end of lil' Bush's presidency.

 

Fact is- regulations can cause, or prevent problems depending on how appropriate they are and how well they are written, how well they are applied. Without question, we have far too many. When Trump took office- the big book that records those things had grown to 97,000 pages under Obama, who loved adding them. That number alone makes them impossible to follow- nobody, not even a team of top lawyers, can wrap their mind around that much legalese. It's like having a game of some kind-If you make that many rules for it, nobody can play it well or comply with them all.

If the government really wanted to see the economy take off and fly, and they asked business and industry what they could do to make that happen- the answer would be "GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY."

 

How vague can one get. It is like the long winded posts on your business successes. So vague as to say nothing at all. In fact, it seems as if every one of your business stories is just an excuse to hero worship business owners and denigrate workers. Same here with your political analysis. Democrats bad, but with no examples, just vague accusations. And then the usual whinny denigrations.

Con artists tend to speak in vague language. It works on the gullible, the ignorant, those who don't know any better. But it doesn't work on those who do know better.

 

Wow... such irony...

 

Good economy or bad, I think this particular Presidential election will be more about Trump's personality than anything else. The House and Senate elections are more keyed to the economy - the Presidential election is more about personality.

Hillary was a disliked figure for much of the country - it was her downfall. It was a battle of the toxic candidates.
Trump is most likely to be the most disliked figure in this election.

 

The progressives are praying for a crashing economy and financial hardship.They're also hoping for a war with a high body count of dead Americans so their 'Trump the warmonger' fantasies can come true. They want Americans to suffer, so their candidate can win in 2020, and inflict punishing taxes on American citizens.

The leftists want all of this, because they're compassionate people, who just want what's best for everybody.

 

It ain't American Idol.

"It's the economy, stupid."

 

Trump is first reality TV President. It sure the hell is American Idol.

 

Lol...Actually, for trump's turd polishers, it is all about their orange idol.
For the rest of us, it's all about his total lack of character and his crap performance on the job.
Don't forget that you people hired an incompetent who bankrupted several of his companies, was sued thousands of times for trying to cheat his workers and contractors, lost credit with the US banks because of his many failures and then turned to foreigners to fund his business and who now have him by the shorthairs.
In the meantime, he's sending the US economy down the toilet with his idiotic economic demagoguery. Everything he touches soon turns to crap. Just look at the mess he has made of immigration with his ham-handed approach.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-26/pain-new-economic-downturn-starting-show-all-over-country