How to achieve global consensus

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  1. Aryeh B.

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    Humanity can come to a general consensus only if it recognizes and executes the will of God. When there is one strong ruler in the world, all other states must obey his will in international affairs. If the world is multi-polar, then wars are inevitable.

    But mankind cannot submit to the will of God, because it says: "Where is God?" If there was an opportunity to show God to all people, if any person could easily and simply find out the will of God in specific cases, then there would be no need for wars and even international courts would not be needed.

    Unfortunately, today even in Christianity there is no unity in interpreting the will of God.

    Therefore, the first step in bringing the world to a consensus should be bringing to a consensus by Christians. This is the main task of the Third Temple.

    Just as the First Coming of Jesus Christ was to reveal and bring together the children of God in ancient Judea, so the construction of Ezekiel's Temple should reveal and bring together the children of God in the modern world. As a result of the construction of the Third Temple, the environment will be born, where the word of God has no distortions typical of Christian denominations.

    Therefore, our present stage in the fulfillment of God's will is that we build the Third Temple in exact accordance with the description of this Temple, which is contained in the Bible. This work does not require the participation of the entire Church, all Christian denominations, all Christians. For the construction of the Temple, a certain number of Christians, Jews and just people who sympathize with this idea are enough.

    I am convinced that when we have such a meeting, we will not be able to make mistakes in the construction of the Temple. The place where the Temple should be built is one. And this place cannot be occupied by the wrong Temple: God will not allow this, because the prophecy of Ezekiel shows the correct, God's Temple in this place.

    I would put it this way: the atomic bomb always hits the epicenter of the explosion, doesn't that surprise you? When we take up the construction of the Temple, God himself will direct our actions in the right direction. Even if we want to do something in our own way, contrary to the will of God, we will not be able to do it differently than God wants.

    When the Temple is built, the rest of the Church should be determined in its attitude to this Temple, just as the ancient Jews had to decide in their attitude to Jesus. This will be God's judgment on the Church.

    But there will also be a judgment on Judaism, on all Jews and on all other people in the world. As a result of all the processes that will occur in Israel and in the world after the construction of the Third Temple, the question will be put before all nations: they will have to recognize the territorial possessions of Israel in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. Because such is the will of God, set forth in the Holy Scriptures, in the prophecy of Ezekiel.

    This applies not only to the peoples of the world, but it also affects the Israelis themselves. Some territories Israel will have to give to other countries, but also Israel itself will have to receive the missing territories in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel. Failure to fulfill the conditions specified in the prophecy will result in losses and suffering for those countries and peoples that will not fulfill this. In part, we can see it today on the example of the plight of Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinian Arabs. But Israel also suffers from not fulfilling the will of God.

    So far, there are no signs that the project of Ezekiel's Temple has some kind of support group, in my "church" there is one member: I myself. Yes, I know some Christians, maybe 5 or 10, who agree with me on the issue of building this Temple. I think they also pray about it. But we never physically met each other. Therefore, I cannot expect that this Temple will be built soon, although technically it is a fairly simple matter. Perhaps God has some ways to speed up the creation of a community that will seek to build the Temple, but so far these opportunities have not been used.

    Therefore, I think that the indefinite period of the "Great Tribulation" is looming ahead of us, otherwise how can the Lord God make us do something?

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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which God?
     
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    The limit of a sequence is unique. If God exists, then He is one.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Regardless of the lack of sense in that statement, no consensus can be achieved when you begin the quest with a thousand Gods.....or even two.
     
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    If there are a thousand gods and they have no consensus, then they are not gods, but demons. Then the world will be multi-polar, all people will fight until they become dust. The one who is true God will laugh at them.

    By the way, yes, today's Christians are more like demons than God. Because they are divided into denominations. The same applies to the rest.

    But I assume that among the multitude of divergent sequences of people, there is one convergent, and it has a unique limit equal to God. This limit can be found by building Ezekiel's Temple.

     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah....you're one of those.

    Have A Nice Day:)
     
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    It seems to me humanity is unlikely to come to a general consensus in any case. The idea that everyone would recognise and execute the will of God is so outlandish an idea, that if we consider that idea, then we should have to consider similar approaches to other philosophies. For instance, humanity could come to a general consensus to adopt communism, Islam, or Buddhism.

    How do you know? It seems to me consolidating Christianity is more likely to polarise the world than unite it. I also doubt that such a consensus could actually be reached. And how would building the third temple unite Christians?
    And what convinced you of that? Would it convince anyone who wasn't already convinced about a specific bunch of other stuff?[/QUOTE]
     
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    Some proofs of mathematical theorems are very complex, but the mathematical community comes to a general agreement on the proof, and the rest of humanity is forced to agree with the world mathematical community.

    With regard to the Temple, everything is much simpler. We do not have such a "Christian" or "divine" community that the rest of humanity would believe. But to prove the theorem (the construction of the Temple) does not require universal agreement. When a certain group of people proves the "theorem" (builds the Temple in accordance with the prophecy of Ezekiel), the entire "mathematical" (Christian, Judaic) community will be plunged into debates about this "proof".

    Real religious communities are not as academic as the community of mathematicians; therefore, in the process of discussing the Temple there may be pogroms and even local wars. At this moment, the one who is almost always behind the scenes intervenes in the discussion process: Lord God. In Revelation, this intervention is shown in the form of vials of the wrath of God.

    Therefore, gradually the intervention of God in earthly affairs becomes obvious to all people. Accordingly, such evidence has to be admitted by all.

    God convinced me of this. I studied the Bible; I spent a lot of time researching the prophecy of Ezekiel on the Third Temple.

    This will occur in several stages.

    The first stage unites only a very small part of Christians, a very small part of Jews and a very small part of non-religious people who will participate in the construction of the Third Temple. This community is shown in Revelation in the image of the Smyrna Church.

    When the Temple is built, the second stage will come: in the Eastern Gate of the Third Temple, within 10 days, people who consider themselves to be messengers of Jesus Christ should enter. This community is shown in Revelation as the Philadelphia church.

    After this, the third stage will begin: all other Christians should decide on their attitude to the people who entered the Eastern Gate. The same applies to all other people in this world: they will have to decide on their attitude to the Temple and to the people who entered the Eastern Gate of this Temple.

    The Holy Scripture states that this Temple will be the temple of God, and the people who enter the Eastern Gate will be equal to God:

    Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
    (Ezekiel 44:2)

    That is, the question that everyone will have to answer will be analogous to the question that the ancient Jews had to answer: who is Jesus? Son of God or impostor?

    If any Christian denomination recognizes the people who entered the Eastern Gate as a manifestation of God, then it should dissolve itself, because its mission is completed: the Second Coming of Jesus Christ took place. Of course, most denominations do not recognize this Temple and these people as a manifestation of God. Therefore, they will follow the political leaders, the Antichrist, and will be destroyed in three and a half years.

    Oh yeah! Of course. At the first stage, a terrible polarization will occur for everyone, especially Christians themselves.

    But God is not totalitarian, He gives us the freedom of choice. Therefore, in the era of the Temple there will be a peaceful coexistence of legalistic Judaism and Christian grace. The Temple and the City will function in parallel. The "lion" of Judaism will eat the "straw" of the religious rites in the new Temple, and the "child" will safely handle the "serpent" wisdom while in the city of Yahweh Shammah.
     
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    The main issue of the Middle East conflict is the question of the right of the Jews to the land of Israel. It would seem that in the Bible, which is a sacred book for Christians, it is written unequivocally, the exact borders of Israel are indicated. But Christians do not agree.
    It would seem that if the Jews were forced to leave many Arab countries because of the pogroms, then they left their lands there, and they can now buy equivalent plots of land in Israel. But Israeli Arabs do not sell land to Jews.
    Who can resolve this insoluble conflict? People do not recognize the authority of Holy Scripture, each interprets God as he pleases.
    The construction of the Third Temple will resolve this knot of contradictions.

    These two videos show how the location of the Temple is determined and how the land should be divided in Israel according to the prophecy of the Bible:



     
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    If... the world could agree that the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter 47 would be win - win - win - win - win for all nations......
    and all religions... then the world could begin to somewhat unite around the idea of assisting the Jewish people to fulfill Ezekiel chapters 40 - 47..... especially chapter 47......
     
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    We can start small: fulfill that part of the prophecy of Ezekiel, which is today in our power.

    Based on the prophecy of Ezekiel, we are well aware that the entire current territory of Lebanon, part of the coast of Syria to Hama, and part of the territory of modern Egypt to el-Arish, should belong to Israel.

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    Of course, in God's plans for the future world order there is not even a hint of any "Palestinian state" in the territory of Israel. Any attempt at political fornication about the creation of an Arab state in the Holy Land is doomed to failure. Therefore, we may ask ourselves: is it possible to redraw the borders of Egypt, Lebanon and Syria, is it possible for Jewish repatriates from all over the world to settle these new territories of Israel without a fierce war in this region?

    I think that the question of whether there will be a war in this region or not will be at the mercy of the people living there. To include a mechanism for restoring Israel’s sovereignty over its entire territory, we must begin with steps that do not affect the borders of neighboring states. The territory where the Temple is to be built is under the control of Israel. Israel can build a residence for the Lord God.

    So, the first step does not imply any violence against Palestinian Arabs and other peoples living in the territories adjacent to Israel.

    The second step that Israel can and must take: people who consider themselves messengers of Jesus Christ should have the opportunity to repatriate to Israel at the time of the consecration of the Third Temple, they should be able to attend the altar sanctification ceremony, which will last for 10 days.

    After these two steps, the Lord God will be present in Israel, and He himself may indicate to people the following actions to restore the biblical borders of Israel. Any nation, any country that will oppose God's will, will be in the position of God's enemy with all the ensuing consequences.
     
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    Of course, Israel’s refusal to settle the Middle East conflict on the basis of Scripture threatens them even more than the neighboring nations, because the first step in implementing the prophecy of Ezekiel depends on Israel.
     
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    Yep. the only salvation of mankind is in our complete conformity of thought and action by blind belief in YOUR brand of christianity as opposed to any other sect or religion.

    Yep build that jewish temple. The jews NEVER acknowledged Jesus as divine and never will. What do you do with the jews whose temple you obviously spiritually yearn for? Tolerate them in their Jewish State with their Jewish temple, while christians everywhere else rejoice in spiritual orgasm? Be a true screw up if the torah was the true word of god and they actually came out on top in the prophesy department.
     
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    This doesn't sound to me like a reason to believe it is true. As usual, war doesn't determine who is right, but who is left. I see no reason to believe that godly intervention means that anyone who wins wars is automatically right.

    What about it convinced you it was true? I have spent a lot of time researching Donald Duck, but that is no reason to believe it is true.

    This does not seem convincing to me, and more importantly, it does not seem to me to be convincing enough to Christians to justify the wars and other problems we both predict.

    Again, all the bad things here seem to be agreed upon by all, but I remain unconvinced by any of the redeeming features. Why should we believe any of this to any greater extent than any other interpretation, including those with less risks?
     

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