I am Israel

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  1. klipkap

    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Given the 5 years of repeating this mantra, MGB remains ignorant of the conclusions drawn my the vast majority o Israel’s top archaeologists … I mean REAL experts in the field..
    Do not fret, MGB. You are in good company regarding ignorance of Palestinian history. Trump,

    “Everyone,” the late New York senator and diplomat Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, “is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” Clearly MGB is strong on the former and extraordinarily weak on the latter. Know what I am talking about, MGB … real science, not only archaeology but also genetics? We have known this (minus the obvious exception) since Oster’s work in 2000. Did Ben Gurion also lie? Don’t know what I am on about? Try to expand your knowledge base with the following, one from the middle-of-the-road Times of Israel:

    – a summary of modern archaeology according to Israel Finkelstein, Israel’s most acclaimed expert in the field. The biblical narrative is mythology, and the Israelites (Jews) originated from the Canaanites

    – French and other experts showing that the biblical narrative is a tribal legend recorded many hundreds of years later

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/

    https://theconversation.com/ashkena...led-by-scientists-thanks-to-ancient-dna-97962

    You have now got new knowledge, both from Moynihan and from real experts. But what’s the bet you will regurgitate your same old jaded clang-empty mantra in the near future about the location of the land of the Palestinians … so damaging to your already low credibility, and just such a waste of oxygen J
     
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    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Pisa, while I appreciate the quality and openness of your posts, what you wrote there is not exactly a fair reflection of relationship at the time. Perhaps we should start a thread of USS Liberty.
     
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    You obviously haven't heard of the Moorer Commission.

    In 2003, 36 years after the Israeli attack on the Liberty, Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, convened the Independent Commission of Inquiry into the Israeli Attack on USS Liberty, the Recall of Military Rescue Support Aircraft while the Liberty was Under Attack, and the Subsequent Cover-up by the United States Government. The Commission consisted of Adm. Moorer, Gen. Raymond Davis, former Assistant Commandant of the US Marine Corps, Rear Adm. Merlin Staring, former Judge Advocate General of the US Navy, and Ambassador James Akins, former US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia.

    The report is devastating. Among the report’s conclusions, these stand out:

    “That due to the influence of Israel’s powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people;

    “That due to continuing pressure by the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, this attack remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress; to this day, no surviving crew member has been permitted to officially and publicly testify about the attack;

    “That there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history; the existence of such a cover-up is now supported by statements of Rear Admiral Merlin Staring, USN (Ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy; and Captain Ward Boston, USN, (Ret.), the chief counsel to the Navy’s 1967 Court of Inquiry of Liberty attack;

    “That the truth about Israel’s attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace;

    “That a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel’s interests when they conflict with American interests; this policy, evidenced by the failure to defend USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israeli attack, endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States.”

    After interviewing many of the survivors, Captain Ward Boston, who was assigned to cover up the attack and afterward repudiated the cover-up, and Bill Knutson, the executive officer of the USS America fighter squadron that was called back on orders from the White House, and lengthy discussions with Adm. Moorer, my former colleague at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, I have written about the Israeli attack on the Liberty a number of times....


    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...attack-on-the-uss-liberty-paul-craig-roberts/[/QUOTE]
     
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  5. Dissily Mordentroge

    Dissily Mordentroge Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The vast majority of Israel’s archaelogists are highly paid re-writers of history.
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4777188
     
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