Democratic congresswoman secretly sending staff into Mexico to coach asylum-seekers

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  1. RP12

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    So continuing the policies of a previous admin and wanting Congress to get off their asses and make the changes that are needed is the fault of the current admin?

    Talk about a complete lack of logic.
     
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    You would have a point if anything you said was true. But none of it is, as you well know.
     
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    More projecting... The policy of "splitting families" started under Obama.. I can link you left wing sources and you will move the goal posts or rant about talk radio.
     
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    That is false.

    Trump wanted it, threatened it repeatedly, and finally had Jeff Session announce it in a news conference.

    Only fools believe Trump’s repeated false rants.

    Here, you stand corrected:
    https://time.com/5268572/jeff-sessions-illegal-border-separated/
     
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    You are confusing things Zero Tolerance while part of the immigration issue is not what you were discussing.. So yes i was right about you moving the goal posts.
     
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    I'm sorry but I couldn't find anything about the Examiner having a long history of making up stories. Care to document that?
     
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    Zero tolerence is what filled up the detention facilities. Force separation only occurred before when there was a criminal referral.

    When Trump ordered zero tolerance and decided to prosecute every illegal as a criminal, he immediately overloaded the criminal justice system. He ignored the warnings that this would happen (another Trump habit, one that signals his indifference and incompetence), and the he lied about it, repeatedly. Then they tried to hide the fact that they were not only separating children, but they were losing them and actually putting children with parents up for adoption.

    This is all Trump’s doing. He turned the trickle into a flood and disgraced the United States.

    We hold no claim to being the home of either the free or the brave when condone a wannabe dictator’s behavior like this.
     
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    See 2014
    See Family Detention centers and what changed

    Pick a source any source of few wacky ones you agree with and then come back,
     
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    Again I'll point you to "Spartacus" on twitter. The "open border democrats" are escorting illegals across the border. Doesn't matter which outlet are reporting it, Booker's bragging about it.
     
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    Trump didn't write the immigration law. Chuck Schumer did. Trump didn't build the detention facilities either. You should be ashamed that none of the dozen DNC bleeding hearts who went to the detention facilities offered to sponsor any of the detainees. Booker was the first to cry about "asylum seekers" being bused to his district in New Jersey. Anothe 1.5 million mouths to feed will illegally cross the border and be detained befor election day. (D)'s are going to face angry taxpayers in 2020 and none of them are going to be angry with Trump.
     
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    “What we believe is happening is Veronica Escobar’s office is going … to basically second-guess and obstruct work already done by the Border Patrol,” said one senior union official, who shared evidence with the Washington Examiner from concerned CBP managers and rank-and-file members. Those documents have been held to protect identities.

    'What we believe'? And whose identities are being protected - from the only document that could offer proof?

    All three border officials worried the interviews might be used to suggest the Border Patrol is wrongfully turning away a large number of asylum-seekers.

    Of course they are.

    I understand most on the right, here, believe that Dems support open borders and want illegals in the country for their votes. But they've made it very clear that they believe human rights violations are taking place and they're doing something about it. You can go on and believe whatever you wish...there is no opening in your minds to see a story as anything other than what you believe. And, apparently, you scour the internet for items that - you believe - will support your thinking.
     
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    your side set the rules that unnamed sources are to be trusted? so are they to be trusted or not? but let me guess your up to your old partisan hypocacy they are only to be trusted if its negative for Trump
     
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    as much as you were ashamed of Obama for doing the same dam thing?
     
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    Which does not change the fact that Trump’s “zero tolerance” policy is exactly what triggered the crisis.

    Sorry, but were no detention facilities filled with separated children before Trump (at least not any of any size) and ICE officials were not putting children’s with parents up for adoption.

    That’s all on your hero. So is the shame.
     
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    The Catholic church has hemorrhaged 5 million members in recent years. They need replacements very badly. Democrats are banking on future voters.
     
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    Dems created the crisis and only now admit its there.
     
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    It damn sure was manufactured, but not by Trump.
     
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    Well then Im afraid I have bad news for the communist pope.
     
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    Their actions have exacerbated the problem. And we know you prefer we just let anyone in with or without ID and then trust them to just show up for a hearing when we ask, but that’s just not happening anymore. They are overloading all our resources because the economy is booming and hoping for a Dem candidate to announce amnesty to put the final nail in our coffin and turn us into north Mexico.

    The US became what it was by fighting for the country. People today just move to whoever hands out the most freebies..and that’s us. And it will destroy us. It’s basic math. We can’t afford so many people suckling off everyone else.

    It’s what cable companies are doing. Internet rates are rising for everyone because many are cutting the chord. But those of us who still have cable are being punished by all those leaving since you still need internet. So I’m paying extra to cover those who don’t want to pay and it just keeps getting worse as more leave. Same scenario. Shares resources with the burden falling on fewer and fewer.
     
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    So you're saying that none of the "miserable conditions" at the border existed before Trump took office?
     
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    We are really breaking down into two countries: the Patriots who believe this is the greatest country in the world and want to preserve it........mostly White Americans; the subversives who want to destroy the U.S. and turn it into just another third world **** hold........mostly blacks and Hispanics. I’m not sure which side will win.
     
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    It’s pretty simple......the traitorous Hispanic Congress Woman can simply issue a press release and say this is not happening.......
     
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    The one with the most guns...
     
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    Following the law caused a crisis???

    So you dont care about reality you want to say someone is my hero instead.. Dear god man i think i would be better off discussing this with the likes of Olbermann.
     

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