Rapinoe Vs Trump

First off let me tell you I have no problem with equal pay for anybody. I have no interest in soccer at all and have no dog in this fight.
It all comes down to how much revenue is generated. Sadly the women do not foot the bill, in fact, they don't even foot the tip.
Let Forbes break it down for you,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoz...ween-men-and-women-is-justified/#6145d7126da4

Now on the other side of the coin, for some unexplained reason,
"The release of the gender pay gap report has shown that female beach volleyball players have surprisingly earned more than male beach volleyball players."
http://cuttingnews.co.uk/society/women-beach-volleyball-players-earning-more-than-the-men/

 

The new America.... where loudly and proudly taking a dump on your own country is the fastest way to riches. I would have never known or cared about this woman absent her incessant prattle on her "victimhood".

It kind of mirrors what is happening in Hollywood with the replacement of traditional white characters with black characters. They attempt to profit on the controversy by calling the traditional fans of a franchise racist for protesting against the retconning. It is an actual marketing strategy that attempts to get people to go see the film as a poke in the eye of the "racists" and the "misogynists". God forbid that they do something creative and build up brand new POC characters, that would require actual talent.

 

Okay, have it your way. But that doesn't change the fact that Democrats dislike Republican presidents, Republicans dislike Democratic presidents. A show of 100% partisanship or shall I say loyalty to party.

 

No American president has ever been accorded the same consistent disapproval by the American people, regardless of party affiliation.

 

Okay, it's not Trump I'm interested in. It is how each party views the opposing party's presidents.This was what I was and still am talking about. Here's some interesting figures on that. I'll divide it up into three groups to show how much ultra partisanship has taken over in how one party views the other party's president.

Era 1, when Republican and Democratic party affiliation made up 70% of the total electorate or more.
Eisenhower 53% average approval rating from Democrats
JFK 52% average approval rating from Republicans
LBJ 39% average approval rating from Republicans

Era 2, when Republican and Democratic party affiliation made up between 60-69% of the total electorate.
Nixon 31% average approval rating from Democrats
Ford 37% average approval rating from Democrats
Carter 30% average approval rating from Republicans
Reagan 34% average approval rating from Democrats
G.H.W. Bush 47% average approval rating from Democrats
Bill Clinton 30% average approval rating from Republicans

Era 3, when Republican and Democratic party affiliation made up between 50-59% of the total electorate.
G.W. Bush 17% average approval rating from Democrats
Obama 12% average approval rating from Republicans
Trump 7% average approval rating from Democrats.

You can see as both parties lost their moderates, shrank, the hard core of each party became more entrench and partisan. Over the years it has become more about the R and or the D next to a president's name in determining how the opposing party views them. Trump could bring about world peace and you would still have 90% of Democrats disapproving of him. The same for Obama, although it would be 85% of Republicans instead of 90%.

 

I would definitely follow or watch woman's beach volley ball before I would soccer. More to see.

 

Well, you came to the wrong thread, buddy. This one is not about who you know or care about. Nobody cares about that. The arguments on the OP were meant to show that Rapinoe is more patriotic than Trump. Looks like you had nothing to say about that. Good! So my point stands.

Other than that, your post probably takes the prize of the day for the greatest number of words without saying anything with any substance. Congrats!

 

Where do I pick up my prize and what exactly is the prize?

 

You already got it! It takes somebody very special not to know it.

 

When you come up with a quantitative way to measure patriotism, let us all know. It is a subjective opinion and as such makes little or no difference because it does not come down to patriotism. It comes down to political bias. I don't like what she did and that opinion has absolutely nothing to do with Trump.

 

Megan is a Patriotic Hero who deserves to be on the face of a coin.

Megan is Joan of Arc.

Trump is a Disgrace and deserves to be removed from office.

^So, there's that.

 

All opinions. Nothing quantitative.

 

Exactly.

All "opinions" are welcome.

 

Historic precedents do not apply to Trump to the extent that he has perverted the traditional GOP to an unprecedented extent. Americans in general and Republicans in particular once abhorred divisiveness, pettiness, incivility, narcissism, mendacity, moral turpitude, contempt for law, piling up astronomical debt, savaging free trade with protectionist tariffs, alienating loyal allies, etc.

Perhaps, that supports your thesis that is now merely a matter of an alphabetical affinity, fierce fidelity to an "R" or a "D" with no import otherwise.

What had been a respectable political party has become a cult of dysfunctional personality that has abandoned its core beliefs and values.

The Party of Trumpery is the GOP in name only.

As conservative columnist Max Boot recently commented after another spate of deranged weekend Trumpy tweets, "This is one of these many things that would be considered crazy in the other administration, but in the Trump Administration it’s just Friday,” Boot said. “Because this is what we’re kind of used to, right?”

It would have been very hard to imagine Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, George H W Bush, or Dubya as an internet troll. Their Party is gone.

Yet, hope endures. Conservative, traditional Republican George Conway recently mocked Trump's abysmal ignorance, by envisioning a rational post-Trump future:

On July 5, George Conway tweeted,

"Twenty-five or fifty years from now,
Trump's gaffe about revolutionary-war airports may end up being the only
memorable line he ever uttered in a speech.
Either that, or his bit about windmills causing cancer."​

 

Opinions do not establish who is the most patriotic, even if there is such a thing as the most patriotic. The closest you can come is if someone willingly gives their life for their country.

 

Why do you keep coming back to Trump when he isn't what I was talking about? Sounds like a bad case of Trumpitis. It's a fact I have shown you the numbers that most Democrats dislike Republican presidents, most Republicans dislike Democratic presidents. At least beginning with Era 2 and then getting really bad in era 3.

I would wager if a Democrat wins in 2020, Republicans will be giving that D president a single digit approval. If Trump wins, Democrats will continue to give him a single digit approval. The hard core, extremist what is left of both parties make that so. Even if Trump's drops out and another Republican wins, Democrats will continue to give that R president a single digit approval. Our two major parties have no one left but ultra high partisans. The moderates have fled both parties. Independents has risen from 30% of the electorate in 2006 to 46% today. Democrats have dropped from 35% down to 28%, Republicans from 30% down to 27% if Gallup and Pew Research are to be believed.

The Democrats had a high of 51% of the electorate in 1961 and again in 1964. The GOP high was 38% in 1944.

https://www.people-press.org/interactives/party-id-trend/

 

I had noted that the allegiance to Party is now largely merely a matter of an alphabetical affinity, fierce fidelity to an "R" or a "D" with no import otherwise as you seem to claim.

Trump being a perversion of the GOP's traditional values does not change the alphabetical allegiance, suggesting that a dysfunctional personality cult has now captured that determinative "R"

 

At least for the time being. You can tell that by his favorable/unfavorable ratings. 71% of republicans view Trump very favorably. Another 17% somewhat favorably. Question 64A.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/al25duedar/econTabReport.pdf

Very favorably is the strongest support with minds made up. Somewhat's can change and do constantly. So yes, the GOP is Trump's party. Obama had close to the same numbers among Democrats, only a bit higher with the very favorably on average.

Compare those numbers of today with the numbers for Trump on 7 Nov 2016. The day before the election. Question 11. 47% of Republicans viewed Trump very favorably, 28% viewed him somewhat favorably. Somewhat's is the wishy washy group. That's quite a change among the very favorably.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l37rosbwjp/econTabReport_lv.pdf

Trump basically hijacked the GOP. According to Gallup 27% of the electorate identified themselves as Republicans on election day 2016, 27% do so today or as of 16 June 2019. No change. So either Trump hasn't driven anyone out of the GOP or he has driven some out to be replaced with newcomers to maintain the GOP status quo of the electorate. It's the Democrats that have dropped 3 points from Nov 2016 from 31% down to 28%. Independents have risen from 40% to 46%. These numbers are dynamic and when Gallup comes in with the July numbers, they could be very different. But as of June 2019, this is where they stand.

There are a lot of Republicans who don't consider Trump to be a conservative or to hold their traditional values. Heck, quite a few don't even consider Trump to be a Republican. Even so, you're not going to get many of them to vote Democratic. Trump being the lesser of two evils. The worst evil is a Democrat no matter who.

It'll be interesting to see how the Republican Party reacts, does, adjusts post Trump. There is no doubt the GOP is Trump's party now.

 

I was struck especially by white evangelicals who jettisoned their once strident, bible-thumping righteousness to kowtow to a mendacious, petty, vindictive "New York Values" moral degenerate who boasted that his celebrity licenses him to grab women, and who rutted behind the backs of trophy wives with bimbos he had a fixer to pay off.

His allure eldes me.

 

Absolutely.

Every time you see an American doing something to raise the good name and standing of our country before the world add one. Examples: Defending our country. Trying to win an international sports event. Contributing to the well-being of humanity....

Every time you see an American doing something to lower the good name and standing of our country before the world, subtract one. Examples, Harming people of other countries. Praising murderous dictators. Undermining any contributions that have been made to the well-being of humanity....

Every time you see an American feigning patriotism by taking no no action, add zero. Example, hugging a flag. Feigning being "scandalized" because somebody didn't stand up while the national anthem was playing, not recognizing their right as Americans to protest....

Now... if you think this is based on politics or something, tell me which of these actions you would move from one group to another and why. Once we agree on the quantification system, let's start using it.

 

Not one of your own invention. One that is recognized universally.

 

I think Trump being pro-life, anti-abortion is all that is needed for evangelicals to over look everything else. A lot of them are one issue voters, nothing else matters except one's stance on abortion. Almost every Democrat I know of or heard of is pro-abortion. To evangelicals abortion is akin to murder.

Even so, Trump's support among evangelicals has dropped from 78% down to 69%,

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...t-other-religious-groups-are-less-supportive/

That's lower than the average Republican supporting Trump. 69% of evangelicals approve of the job Trump is doing vs. 88% for all Republicans. This drop in support doesn't mean they won't vote for him in 2020. He's still preferable to any Democrat who believes in abortion. There are those evangelicals who believe the Democratic Party is out to destroy their religion and force them all to become atheist.

 

You already discarded that there could be one recognized universally. I don't agree with you, but you said it comes from political bias. So I'm trying to come up with a compromise.

So try again....

 

I am not looking for one which could be recognized universally. I am looking for one which is recognized universally. No such thing exists because you can't measure it by observation. I person can be very patriotic and not show it or be very unpatriotic, but put on a great show.

I looked at her display as an insult to true patriots who laid their life on the line. An absolutely pointless insult at that.

 

So, as expected, you were just looking for a way to justify your prophet, close your eyes, cover your ears and run away screaming la la la la! I can't hear youi!

Yeah... exactly what I thought.

Total waste of time, as usual.. Why do you even bother?