Rapinoe Vs Trump

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said before, my view on this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump.
     
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    she was disrespecting Trump, not the anthem
     
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    Female porn stars also make much more than their male co-stars. ;-)
     
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    Oh God! I bet you had a lot of fun researching that one.
     
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    Nah, just common knowledge for a long time.
     
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    Most Americans are pro-choice, but all or nearly all of the Republican candidates vying for the presidential nomination in 2016 were not. Yet, of all their candidate who would have politicians limit a woman's control of her womb and had been consistent in that commitment, the evangelicals enthused especially over the moral degenerate whose position had been glaringly erratic. Trump on 1999: "I am very Pro-Choice!"
     
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    When Trump ran as a Republican, he switched a lot of his previously held political views. Romney did the same. That being said, I don't think Trump ever had any political view that were set in stone or shall I say deeply held. How could someone who switched parties eight times have any serious held political views or a political ideology or philosophy?

    As for evangelicals, I explained that to you.
     
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    Evangelicals being hypocrites and exposing that their agenda is primarily political and not spiritual as they had feigned is apparent.

    If they need to pretend that Trump meets their moral standards, some would conclude that they have sold their collective soul to the devil at a bargain basement price. But the cost will be much higher.
     
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    Who do you expect them to support? Certainly not anyone in the Democratic Party is one is being a realist. To them the Democratic Party is trying to destroy their religion and are nothing more than baby killers. Under our two party system, their choice boils down to Trump, certainly not an upstanding moral guy. But he at least is anti-abortion. The other choice, the Democrats who are pro abortion and in their eyes trying to destroy their religion. In our two party system, it's a no brainier for them.

    If they had a viable third choice, perhaps they would have chosen the third choice. McMullin really wasn't a viable third choice, but in Utah 31% of Mormons voted for him. Hillary received 14% of the Mormon vote. Those in Utah with no religion went heavily for Hillary. Nationally, among those with no religion Hillary swamped Trump 67-25. Those who never attended Church goes to Hillary 62-30. Trump won the protestant, Catholic, Mormon, other Christian vote by wide margins. The only religious block Trump lost was the Jewish vote. The Jewish vote has long been about as sold Democratic as any group could get outside of blacks.

    Could be the Democratic Party is seen as anti-religion at the least by most of the religious with the exception of the Jewish Vote.
     
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    I expect them to support Trump, because they are hypocrites whose political agenda overrides their espoused moral standards. If not for their single-issue political agenda, they would never be so enthused over a lowlife like Trump.

    Christianity is not a single-issue faith, and moral consistency demands that, if one raged in righteousness against dissolute Bill Clinton, one does not then praise the degenerate Donald Trump, regardless of his pandering in a legislative matter.

    Such an abandonment of ethical standards was succinctly expressed by none other than abortion-rights opponent and family values legend, GOP Congressman Duncan Hunter when he effused to fellow Republican concerning Trump,


    Then, they would do well to learn tolerance, and not demonize Christians and other Americans who are Democrats. Given their hypocrisy concerning Trump, I certainly would not assume that white evangelicals do not choose to have abortions while publicly declaring that no one should have that right.

    "Pro-abortion" is a fake characterization of Americans who do not promote, nor would ever choose abortion for themselves, but respect a woman's right rather than have politicians dictate to her. (Pew Research, combining polls from 2011 and 2013, noted that over half (53%) of white Catholics believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, with 41% saying it should be illegal in all or most cases.)

    Such a falsehood may well be rampant among white evangelicals. As many Catholics register as Democrats as Republican.


    "There is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their
    political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions.”

    Peter Wehner, a conservative Christian who remains baffled by the unwavering support for Trump by fellow evangelicals
     
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    Then she chose the wrong method. She insulted a lot of us along the way. She can insult Trump by not going to the White House, which is fine with me.
     
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    your free to disagree with her as am I, but she is free to do it

    Trump is an embarrassment to the office of President, but it's his choice too
     
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    I have never disagreed that she is free to do so. However, if her issue is with Trump, why insult millions of us who take offense at her actions?
     
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    I don't feel insulted, I feel proud that this is a free country where someone could do something like that without being punish, political dissent shoudl be allowed, we do not have to agree with it, but it's good we live in a country where it's possible
     
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    I always thought Catholics were basically monolithic Democratic. I was Surprised Trump carried them. I was really surprised to find out since 1972 Catholics voted for the Republicans in all but 1992, 1996 and 2012. Of course protestants voted Republican in every election since 1972 as the Jewish vote went Democratic in every election since 1972. Those who attend religious services at least once a week also voted Republican in very election since 1972. Those with no religion or never attend church have gone Democratic since 1976. It does seem religion or no religion does play a major role in determining how one votes.

    There has to be a reason behind that. There is no doubt in many peoples mind the Democratic Party is an anti-religion party. Anti-Christian religion that is. This seems ingrained just like blacks vote Democratic in every election, most religious vote Republican. I think it is hard for a Republican or a Democrat to understand why someone votes for the other party. But each has their reason/s. We may think their reasons are asinine or 100% pure BS, but to them it is important.

    You might not be able to understand why a religious person would support Trump, but I can. I accept it. You're not going to talk an avid pro-Trumper into abandoning him. Same as you're not going to talk an avid Anti-Trumper into supporting him. That's a fact. If I had to give advice to a political campaign, I'd tell my candidate or party to forget those die hard's of either party. To concentrate on winning independents, those who don't fall into either camp, be that pro or anti Trump, Republican or democrat, left or right.
     

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