Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    Court ordered deportations.

    End of story.
     
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    How about collecting taxes from employees?
    Sanctuary cities just don't enforce federal laws. If the feds can force states to enforce federal law, they're as good as dictating to states how to spend their money. Learn what the hell is really going on.

    If a business skips the check I outlined, they would be subject to prosecution.
    Get a clue--I'm not a liberal. But I'm not a tweet/Fox News Trumpite dupe.

    You'd spend $40b on a wall when a low-cost and effective option is available? Why don't you and the Trumpites take up a collection amongst yourselves for the Orange Oaf's f'ing wall?
    Better to blow $40b on an f'ing wall? How dumb is that?
    One of us if for an affordable, effective solution to illegal immigration and it ain't you, pilgrim.
    Like I said, step one is paying no attention to you low information types.
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The source is the Constitution of the United States. The page I donated to is only the source of the red cards. Of course I read their pages before donating! This is the fourth post you have written since I first explicitly challenged you to show something wrong in the text of those cards, and you just keep dancing around. Last chance.
    That's my question: what context? I have said that many times for many different reasons and to prove different points or to answer different questions. Today alone I think I have said it at least three times for different reasons. I'm not going to speculate, though. If you have a question about one specific instance, you would need to provide the context. As a matter of fact, you can just look at the context and you'll see why I said it.
     
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    Then grab them when they are in public.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is one possibility, but they still need an arrest warrant on that particular person. They can not just go up to anyone they suspect of being here illegally and harass them. Land of the free and all....
     
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    They should ask their parents why they have put them in this position
     
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    Your latrine lawyer law degree is going to get someone shot. Cops can enter your home without a warrant. If you and your spouse are yelling and screaming at each other and the neighbors call the cops on you, if the cops hear you yelling and screaming, they can walk right into your home. If ice approaches a target house and sees the target suspect outside and then runs inside to hide, the cops can damn sure enter the home in pursuit. If someone is having a party and the cops get called, if they look in the window and determine there is underage drinking, they can walk right in. That’s all legal. And there are illegal searches all the time, and the only recourse is hopefully having the evidence thrown out of court. Not much recourse in a bad ice raid. They aren’t searching for evidence that could get tossed in court, they are searching for a person that has committed a crime.
     
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    Why no question mark? I just said Trump wants to scare people. I didn't say I wouldn't round up the bad guys.
     
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    You're suggesting that we occupy...apparently all of Central America so we can straighten it out.

    That's imperialism. I'm guessing you were in favor of the Iraq invasion?
     
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    You believe Trump? :roflol:
     
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    Could you highlight in the constitution a passage then that differentiates "American" from "American citizen?" Because I've no idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Huh? What the hell does any of this have to do with the ICE raids?

    You are in your own little world.

    Arrest them illegally? That's your "solution"?

    God!.

    Fortunately, ICE agents have much more brains than that. Because what they actually do is just walk away.
     
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  13. LangleyMan

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    So, how come Trumpites are so dumb?
     
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    Trump is so full of cow poop
    • The Trump administration still isn't deporting as many immigrants annually as former President Barack Obama did in the early years of his presidency, Axios reported.
    • Just 282,242 immigrants have been deported so far in the fiscal year 2019, whereas the Obama administration made 409,849 deportations in the fiscal year 2012.
    • A key factor in Trump's relatively slow rate of deportations is the limited resources of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, particularly as the influx of migrants at the southern border consumes the administration's time and energy.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-still-isnt-deporting-as-many-immigrants-as-obama-did-2019-6
     
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    Three years later and you're still puking out the same junk that lost you the last election.
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    No, you specifically said, "Do you think the American born children of illegals aren't terrified that they could come home and find their parents have been deported?"

    So, once again, are you saying that having American born children means you shouldn't be deported? I'm trying to figure out what being scared or having American Children have to do with the serving of a valid court order? Do we fail to serve valid court orders to American citizens because they're children might be scared?
     
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    Well, idiot Trump telegraphed that there would be massive ICE raids. Legal aid foundations are letting people know that they do not have to open their doors and let ICE or any other police agency into their home without a warrant. Many people who have been here for years and have children born here are being terrorized as are their American children who may end up being thrown into one of Trumps filthy cages after being separated from their parents. I have no problem with agencies who are helping these people defend themselves.
     
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    If Juan Pablo has a deportation order and ice approaches his house and sees Juan inside, ice is coming in to get him. It’s called a crime in plain sight. And Juanita and her little red card isn’t stopping them.
     
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    Yeah, sure--a 6-year-old should do a deep dive into parental responsibility.

    Anyway, I didn't say the parents shouldn't be deported, but I'm not prepared to ignore the obvious fact children are scared of losing their parents. We should wear all the consequences of whatever we support.
     
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    You have no objective evidence. I do.
     
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    This whole thread is BS.
    "A senior immigration official had told CNN on Friday that ICE was planning on arresting and deporting about 2,000 migrant families with court-ordered removals in 10 cities beginning Sunday."
     
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    As far as I am concerned, Trump has nothing to do with it.
     
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    So, after the Orange Oaf announces the raids, Juan is going to hang around his window? Why would ol' Bone Spurs say we're coming if he really wanted to catch 'em?
     
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    Highlight the what? The constitution doesn't use the term "American". It uses words like "person", "persons" or "people" Which is what today we colloquially call "Americans" As for "highlighting" it. Do it yourself! Read the constitution wherever it says "person", "persons", "people", etc....

    Amazing that you have never read the Constitution! This is your chance!
     
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    Yeah, sure--Trump has nothing to do wit it.
     

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