Florida Approves Bill Allowing Classroom Teachers To Be Armed

You mean you refuse to answer a question directly aimed a a claim you made, because you know you cannot answer it honestly w/o destroying said claim.
And you know it.

 

Well... as you know.... you STILL have not answered this question:

It is irrational for a teacher/student to fear being shot while in a school?

Well?

 

And never will for as you so correctly pointed out it destroy the OP's false claims.

 

Except for the fact that such is not the case, as such was not actually codified into the legislation that was passed. Therefore educators cannot go about discharging firearms in a reckless manner without concern for the legal consequences they would face as a result.

The legislation in question does not bestow any law enforcement authority or capabilities on the part of educators, it merely authorizes those who undergo the training to legally possess a firearm while on a facility of learning. That is the absolute extent of the matter, nothing more.

 

I don't get it. No need for all this.
Put a person at the entrance with a gun, who has right to search everybody who enters the school.
No more guns, no more knifes. In case of some big fight going on in school, he can stop it.
Simple solution.

 

Firearms and ammunition are already illegal to possess if one is a prohibited individual, and possesses a disqualifying record. Yet despite this fact, despite there being absolutely no legal avenues for them to go about acquiring a firearm, these individuals are still seeking out, obtaining, possessing, and using firearms, despite such being illegal, and despite the fact that such can result in a felony conviction.

It is already a federal crime to sell firearms to prohibited individuals. Yet there are many who are currently doing just that, and doing such for prices that are easily affordable to just about everyone.

Therefore the proposal being presented on the part of yourself is factually deficient and heavily flawed. Propose something else.

 

Already in place, but doesn't work.

 

The subject has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of need. Constitutional rights are not rationed out to the public on the basis of who needs what, or whether someone can demonstrate that their need is more legitimate than someone else. One does not need to demonstrate they need to be allowed to own a firearm, or detachable magazine, or anything else related to such, as the united states government simply does not possess the authority to prohibit legal firearms ownership.

If someone wishes to own a magazine that holds one hundred rounds of ammunition, that is all the legal justification needed for such, and government cannot legally hold otherwise.

Which is completely irrelevant and off topic to the present discussion.

 

Except for the fact that such is already being done, and yet it is still failing to yield the desired results.

Propose something else.

 

The need for concealed carry among the school's faculty is to introduce uncertainty as to where the armed resistance would come from when the school shooter is planning their attack. The goal is to make the shooter so uncomfortable in not knowing who is armed that they do not carry out their planned attack.

If you place one firearm on campus, at the front door no less, to respond in the event of school shooting then the only element left with any type of advantage is the school shooter in the form of surprise. Why don't you get that?

 

LIES, it works in NYC schools, as well as in Chicago schools. NEXT!

 

Simple solution by a person who doesn't understand how long it would take to funnel 3000 - 4000 students per day past that person.

And it would do anything for say Parkland where the shooter was not in the school as a student but snuck into the school through a stairway door that was left propped open.

 

Once again you are incorrect, there are metal detectors at Parkland and they didn't prevent the shooting.

Plus you seem not to understand basic geography Parkland is not in NYC or Chicago.

 

I mentioned NYC and Chicago schools, and you mention Parkland, GO FIGURE. There are many who have theories about Parkland and why what took place took place. I view the events of Parkland in this light: why has not this active shooter scenario taken place in any of the schools in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, etc? I say because no political outcry of banning guns or arming teachers would have taken place, but that is just me and my mind. As to teachers being armed, I say HELL NO! There is enough madness taking place in schools with teachers having sexual relations with students, social promotions, principals and teachers cheating in order to raise the overall GPA of the schools, etc. SO HELL NO, NO GUNS IN SCHOOLS taking all of the scandals taking place in schools and being that teachers are flawed and untrustworthy as it stands. You and others may have this fantastical view of teachers, but reality is reality. Plus, schools are supposed to be gun and narcotics free.

 

Those who seek to shoot up a school thank you for making it easier for them to do so.

 

Which in Broward they are not, in 2016/2017 there where 193 incidents where students brought either a gun or a knife to school for self defense, and those are just the ones that got caught, the schools in Broward are awash in drugs and crimes, such as assault robbery and rape.

 

And by that you will continue to perpetuate the problem as there are lots of guns in the Broward schools just not in the hands of good guys..

 

How well has the status quo been working out so far?

 

I must be all-powerful or omniscient in order for you to lay blame on me for school shootings! What I have always posted has nothing to do with allow or encouraging school shooting, which is why I am adamant in keeping teachers from arming themselves, as though a teacher is going to be steady, confident and assured in an active shooter incident. No matter how you seek to term your advocacy for arming school teachers, you ignore certain realities and frailties of people when involved in an excited and excitable situation.

 

And you totally ignore how good people can be trained preferring to think they are all incompetent and incapable of performing as trained when needed.

Maybe you need to understand not everyone is alike those who wish to endanger children.

 

And because schools are not classified as Gun and Narcotics free Zones in Broward County, Fla, you advocate teachers arming themselves? Telling! VERY Telling!

 

The schools are indeed legally classified as zones where such is not permitted. But despite such classification, the students are bringing prohibited items onto school grounds regardless.

 

LIES! How is my using what I consider a balanced approach to school shooting, with are few and far between, you accuse me of advocating school shootings. You are serious a strange person with strange reasoning (use of logic and intelligence).

 

You may not like the fact you want to make it easier for people to shot up schools, but it dos not change the fact that you do.

 

Do you read what you post? Teachers are not bringing weapons to school, some wild and untamed students, who should not be in the schools, anyway, are bringing in said weapons.