Fascism has been awakened, and doesn't want to go back to sleep

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    The Greenville rally was one of the signs I was talking about would happen following Trump's election. Thousands screaming for Rep. Omar to go back to her own country wasn't only showing true colors of pure racism, it was a sign fascism was, or has been building steam, on the right for awhile now. We didn't need Trump telling three Americans, and one immigrant at the age of seven, to go back to their own country, to see his election would lead us to the place we are now.

    Charlottesville was indicative of white nationalism, flirting with fascism. Greenville was the sign fascism has been awakened in this country. If this many people are echoing not only racist, but fascist sentiments as well, then yes we are headed down the road toward a fascist government. Note another hallmark of fascism is a strong affinity with national security. One could pinpoint this administrations strong affinity for national security going back to the relentlessly pushed Muslim bans, tossed out by court after court. Intensive ICE raids, now making a nation a police state, are another sign of a strong desire with national security. It's not protecting the borders or the midnight arrests that give off a scent of fascism, its the way its executed.

    It's one thing to be for lower taxes, or less regulation, but it becomes something else entirely when you are calling for people of another nationality to leave just because she wasn't born here, or her ancestors weren't born here.

    If socialism is what you call it when you lean too far left, then fascism is what you call it when you lean too far right. And right now, a fascist government is taking hold in Washington.
     
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    Is being able to freely criticize the Government and the President on a public basis a sign one is living under fascism?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The squad calls Trump a "mother f---er" and they do nothing but mock the United States for six months, and Trump isn't allowed to call them out?

    Yes, fascism is alive. And it's coming from the left.
     
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    If you think name-calling is fascism, you need to think more.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    That's simply the 1A.

    Calling for extreme national security and telling naturalized citizens to go back to their country is another.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The left is trying to silence the right. That's 'step one' towards totalitarianism.
     
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    Enforcing existing immigration laws and attempting to handle a border crisis is "extreme"? OK
    I think you need to do some research of real fascism.
     
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    Name-calling is not "silencing." No, it has nothing to do with totalitarianism. If you really believed it was, you'd be railing against Trump for his name-calling.
     
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    It was awakened in 2009, an election win for fascism that resulted from Pelosi and Reid crashing the economy by raising the minimum wage by 40% during the Bush administration. She's trying to do it again because she is losing to her radical socialists and Trump.
     
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    Deporting citizens over free speech would, indeed, take us pretty far down the road to fascism. If it didn't take us all of the way there.
     
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    The left is trying to silence Trump's criticism of the squad. Trump's normal banter is falsely being called "racist" to shut him down.
     
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    The only thing they are responding to him with is further speech. Calling something "racist" isn't fascism, nor is it shutting him down. Please learn what fascism actually is before throwing the word around and lessening its impact for the sake of misrepresenting your political opponents.

    Calling criticism fascism is wildly false, wildly irresponsible, and wildly corrupt.
     
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    Trump's revulsion over Omar has nothing to do with the color of her skin. He objects to her idiotic, anti-American and anti-Semitic pronouncements since she entered public life.
     
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    Yes, Omar is an anti-Semitic Fascist.
     
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    Looking at different characteristics of fascism, which has historically been far right, not far left, we start seeing similar parallels.

    Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    "Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays."

    We can see that "America First" and "Make America Great Again" are examples of consistent patriotic mottos and slogans.

    Obsession with National Security
    "Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses."

    We saw this broadly illustrated with the Muslim travel bans pushed early on in the Trump Administration, citing terrorism (when ironically, terrorism in recent years was almost entirely homegrown). We also have seen this play out with the whole idea of "caravans" during the latter half of last year, that some sort of civil war at the border would break out when it ended up being 10-12 people. "

    Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    "The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc."

    A good example of this is the fear of the browning of America. That somehow immigrants who don't speak like us, don't look like us, shouldn't be here. The Greenville rally is a good example. Here you have the people rallied around chastising Rep Omar for not being American. Another common threat you I am sure have seen is the idea, "the media is the enemy of the American People." It's been tossed around as fake news and alternative facts as well, with Trump's consistent attacks of left wing and media figures leading to pipe bombs mailed throughout the country last year. Rep. Omar is being attacked based off her ethnic background.


    We can't deny these type of fascist streaks have bled into our government and our fellow citizens. One who is uneducated about the signs could simply ignore it, and simply say acts like the ones above are simply abhorrent. I'm honestly sad to say I could see this coming.
     
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    The way its said it what makes it deal with the color of her skin.
     
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    If you think that criticizing a person's views that happens to be of another race is "racism", you need to think more.

    Happy to cite your comments from the other thread in case you are confused.
     
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    This nation has turned into a bunch of out-of-the-closet poooseys. Everything is racist. Everything is fascist. No, actually, everything the left doesn't like gives them a serious case of the butthurt.

    If you don't like the Constitution and the Country.....get the hell out or quit your bitchin. :flagus: :flagus: :flagus:
     
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    The US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission would disagree with you. It found Trump's attacks on Omar as, "harassment based on national origin." Race is quite clearly tied into telling someone to go back where they came from if its not overtly apparent they are of white European descent. That's why telling Melania to go back where she came from doesn't have as much racial undertones, because Slovakians are white.
     
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    What does "Charlottesville was indicative of white nationalism" mean? In what sense did the response to this "indicate" white nationalism to a casual observer?

    Telling someone to leave the place they constantly complain about isn't racist. If I invited myself to your house, came in and made myself at home, and then starting bitching about how your house is terrible, your furniture is uncomfortable and looks like it is from a garage sale, and the TV at my house was better, you would tell me to **** and you know it. You would be right to do so. No one is saying leave because someone wasn't born here, they are saying leave because someone is an ******* who won't admit they are much better off here.

    Also, just FYI the so called "Muslim ban" was upheld by the supreme court. Odd how he forgot to ban most of the Muslims isn't it?
     
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    Lol ok.

    What race is being discriminated against when someone is told to go back to where they came from, when they ILLEGALLY entered here?

    It's not racist, it's saying that one came here ILLEGALLY. Oh wait, did we forget about your sacred Congresswoman's 9/11 statements?

    Hmm.

    Alt left radicals really put themselves in a pickle supporting her
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    I gave three clear examples how this administration is giving off fascist streaks in response to another user. To textbook characteristics of fascism. Such an accusation can't come without evidence to back it up, and this definitely has evidence.

    America was originally a nation of indigenous tribes. There is nowhere set in store where it says you must speak English, be white and practice Christianity. The Statue of Liberty says to be given the poor, not the white and English speaking poor. It's like how I don't believe Omar was being Anti-Semitic at all. She was calling out politicians pledging allegiance to Israel, which struck nerves of the politicians who do. Liberty does not have a "my way or the highway" provision.
     
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    Omar is a naturalized citizen, she immigrated here with her parents when she was seven....

    Yes, she came legally.
     
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    Then perhaps these individuals should conduct themselves in a manner that suggests they have the best interest of the united states and its citizens at heart, instead of in a manner that suggests they hate everything about the united states and are more interested in the well being of other foreign nations.

    Freedom of speech does not protect one from being ridiculed for what they have to say.
     
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    Marrying your brother, and having two unionized might be "legal" in your book, but it's also a "scam". Which is funny too, because you constantly whine about Trump.

    Fair is fair, Eh Comrade?
     
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