The 1950s are coming back

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  1. TomFitz

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    That’s what Trump wants, and so does his audience.

    Trump saw the explosion of angry white resentment that accompanied the election of a black man to the White House. It was the fuel that the GOP used to fuel a fake grass roots organization, and scam the angry white crowds to support more tax cuts for Wall Street, by letting them vent about race without admitting that’s what they’re really doing.

    Of course, some tea parties will dishonestly suggest that tea is really “taxed enough already”. But were are they now that their fuhrer has exploded federal spending and the deficit????

    They’re at Trump rallies yelling “send her home”.

    None of the denial and attempts to parse and play semantic games with Trump’s statements have any credibility whatsoever.

    But the louder they get, the more obvious the real focus is. Trump knows that. He speaks pitch perfect Archie Bunker. And his Archie Bunker audience loves him for it.

    Of course, lately, he’s gone full George Wallace and Jesse Helms.
     
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    Not that your response had anything to do with the post.
     
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    Yet Black Families were intact, how about we go back to that time minus the racial clap trap?
     
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    After all, Strom Thurmond and the Dixiecrats were right! We would have been better off had we listened to him (and Eastland, Helms, Wallace, Maddox and Bull Conner) and not bothered with civil rights!!!!!!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/20/usa.sarahleft

    Do you even listen to yourself when you say these things????
     
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    This is patently ridiculous.

    The defeat of racism in the 1940’s did not result in the rise of a new set of facist regimes in the 1950’s.

    I realize that some Americans are so parochial that they see this only through the lens of domestic politics, and are short sighted enough that this “Leave it to Beaver” fantasy the exists on their minds happened everywere in the 1950’s, but this is obviously not true.

    Contrary to your representation, governments across the industrialized world accompanies rebuilding with the establishment of things like free college, national health insurance, and real care for the elderly. All of which are decried as “socialist” by right wingers in the US, even though they’ve worked successfully in other countries for half a century.

    The rise of facist regimes in Poland, Hungary, and the rise of chauvinistic neo facist groups in Italy, France, Britain, and Scandinavia have no analog in the 1950’s
     
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    That's a picture of Frankfurt am Main downtown in 1952. The post war rebuilding took decades and we're still cleaning up the WWII mess.
     
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    So weren’t white families. But staying in a marriage for the sake of keeping the family together isn’t always good either.
     
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    Yes it does. It has everything to do with comparing tax rates then and now. With no competition in the world, the government could charge usurious tax rates with impunity in the 1950's.
     
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    Is the current situation of broken families ultimately better, where the black community is driven to commit riots and burn down their own neighborhoods in response to one of their own being killed by a white individual in an act of self defense?

    What exactly has the black community ultimately gained that makes them better off now than they were seventy years ago?
     
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    Continually having more children for the sake of a larger welfare check is arguably worse.
     
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    Yes, your point is based on your obsession with race. There is a word for those obsessed with race.
     
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    Nah, but it is about tying the blatant socialist 'Justice Democrats' to the democratic party which Trump has done brilliantly and moderate dems are woeful about.
     
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    LOL, of course 'Trump' is responsible for the lefts obsession with race and overuse of the race card. It's always someone else's fault.
     
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    That was neither the cause nor the incentive.

    High marginal tax rates were introduced during the war, in order to pay for the war, and were retained after the war.

    That’s how we paid off our WWII debt by 1949, and were able to pivot to expanding Social Security and building interstate highways. This makes a remarkable contrast to how we manage our money in the post Reagan “trickle down” era, where we just put the cost of wars on the national credit card.

    Remember that the 95% bracket refers only to the top margainal tax rate.

    The bigger difference is that the tax code now heavily favors interest income and passive investment, and most heavily taxes income from work.

    Bond traders and CEO’s pay a fraction of their income in taxes as compared to their own employees, who don’t have the benefit of passive income to offset their taxes.

    And it isn’t as though any of the countries destroyed during the war had lower tax rates, or didn’t build thier own social welfare systems while rebuilding.

    The comparison is not only irrelevant, it’s false.
     
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    “Socialism” is a code word for the reactionary right.

    It’s evil on 29 days of the month. The other day the Social Security check arrives.
     
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    Well I hope unions and defined pension plans are coming back also
     
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    Socialism is the platform of Bernie and the Justice Democrats so...
     
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    Also, they call it 'Democratic Socialism' which means if they can convince enough useful idiots to vote for it you get socialism.
     
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    So then you don’t agree with the OPs idea about giving govt assistance for mothers to stay home and take care of children. Good to know
     
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    They were intact because Democrats hadn't figured out how to replace their slave ownership with some other form of bondage. Johnson innovated economic bondage when he fashioned welfare as a way to motivate working fathers to leave the home. He gave black kids a 70% rate of single parent homes -- sweeping male kids to gangs and guaranteeing failure. It was no accident. It was designed to secure the votes of a growing black underclass.

    That is why Democrats hate Trump. He has stimulated the economy for all Americans, delivering the lowest unemployment rate for blacks in history.

    There is not longer a "black community". Thanks to Trump, minorities are as economically diverse as the "white community". Democrats hate that Johnson's dream of a 200 year run of black dependency and Democrat voting has gone by the wayside. Their heads are spinning in fear that Trump might be rewarded for helping blacks escape poverty. That explains pervasive droning sound of Democrat race hustling. I had to turn off CBSN this morning, as it became obvious that they were panicked that Trump was winning and the Democrats were being led by anti-Semitic, anti-American Socialists.
     
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    Yeah....Hoosier8 is the word.....not Grease.
     
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    The funny thing is that women were happier before Women's Lib drove them out of the kitchen.

    “Women have lives that become increasingly empty,” Buckingham said. “They’re doing more and feeling less.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/opinion/20dowd.html

    And isn't that what we want, a society that promotes happiness?
     
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    Why have a government at all if the majority of hard working citizens cannot rely upon it?
     
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    I’m sure all the women around you appreciate the fact that you think you should decide what’s good for them.
     
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    Not always no brutal asses need to be put on short notice that such behavior will not be tolerated.
    Certainly not what Democrats want. Happy people don't require government ownership of their lives. Happy people aren't looking to find some one upon whom to place blame
     

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