MS-13 gang members indicted after 'medieval-style' killing spree in Los Angeles

It didn't work here either!

 

And if you want to call yourself an ape, then who am I to object? As for me, I was given reasoning - or at least I think I was.

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You were given reasoning, but you obviously surrendered it at some point. Everything from basic anatomy to genetics and the fossil record will show you that humans are apes.

 

How about you giving me one good reason why I have to prove to you or to anyone that God exists? For what reason?

Arrogance is the crux of the problem here. You exalted yourself to the point where you actually think others have to prove something to you as if they have something to gain from it - but they don't. What you believe is your loss and your gain, and no one else's believe me.

Your pride had turned you into a self designated god. Well, you're not alone.

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You asserted god exists and humans were created in its image. The burden of proof is on you, for making a positive assertion. You know you can’t do that.

So, I acknowledge your total inability to show your god exists and created man for the third time.

 

I bow to your superior reasoning.




Enough already!

 

I'm not asking you to bow. I'm asking you to think and reason.

 

And I ask you once again; 'why do I have to prove to you that God exists, when your own arrogance has blinded you from knowing Him. It's your problem, not mine.





Socrates - Wisdom comes when we realize how little we know about life, ourselves, and the world around us.

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You're asking me to think and reason the way you think and reason. Isn't that an oxymoron?

 

Consider the facts, m'dear. Christians don't like to do that where matters such as the age and origin of the earth and its life are concerned.

 

Asked and answered already. You made the assertion. Burden of proof is on you. I acknowledge for the 4th time your total inability to support your assertion.

 

So called experts can be wrong. A perfect example is Dutchsinse. He has proven with an almost 99% accuracy that earthquakes can be predicted, yet instead of accepting what he discovered quite by accident and utilizing it for the benefit of mankind, the geologists keep harassing him for proving them wrong.

As for the age of the earth, that has to do with time and how it's recorded and interpreted. Our time started with man and the little tape recorders in our brains. And even then it's relative depending on one's age. For example a toddler's day is forever, while at my age it keeps getting shorter and shorter. A week now seems like two days.

An Israeli mathematician found that the existence of the world falls into 6 equal time elements which would correspond to the six days the world was created. Also each time element corresponded with God's creation during that so called 'day'. After the creation of man the time element changed, so that days became as we know them now, while before each day in the Bible represented billions of years. By the way this how the Catholic Church always taught creation.

Now don't you find it a little odd that people so many years ago would know what was created first, what was created second, and so on and so forth. What would be the probability of that? Logic, simple logic.

 

Prove your god exists, created everything, and prove time changed after man was created.

 

correction: MS-13 was founded in 1980 under Republican Reagan who granted blanket amnesty to illegals

please edit and correct your post

 

It was the Democrats amnesty amendment to the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act that Democrats demanded or they wouldn't vote for the bill.

The Democrats said it would be a one time amnesty never to be repeated again.

It was just another lie, six more Democratic amnesties were sneaked through Congress during the Clinton administration.

Remind me some time to tell you the real story behind the amnesty and the 1986 IRACA.

 

That is some prime BS right there. I'll just point out that the order of creation in Genesis is far from accurate.

 

that's news to me.

 

would you tell me the real story behind the amnesty and the 1986 IRAC, please?

 

Reagan had the final say. He signed it. He owns it. The 1986 amnesty bill is all Reagan. Own it.

 

It's reagan's fault, for sure. Why do republicans love to shape shift history?

 

LOL. And forum Republicans continue to insist that Reagan was the greatest president in US history.

 

Remember back during the 1980's when Mexico was in real financial and internal problems and were asking the USA and other nations to bail them out ?

At the time Mexico which had been under a one party rule like California is today during most of the 20th Century was ripe for revolution.

The last thing America wants is a revolution in Mexico which would mean millions of refugees running towards the border.

America was getting nervous and President Reagan called the CIA Director William Casey into the Oval Office and Reagan asked what were the odds that the Mexican people would rise to the occasion and have a revolution ?

Casey sent some spooks down to Mexico to do some snooping and they reported back to Casey.

Casey got back to President Reagan and informed Reagan that there will never be a revolution in Mexico, that Mexicans always run away from their problems.

Then Casey gave Reagan the bad news...
The Mexicans are running away from their problems and are running towards El Norte and are bringing their problems and politics with them.

This alarmed President Reagan who said we need to act now and secure our borders and start enforcing our immigration laws ASAP.

Reagan called on Congress to do something by coming up with an enforcement immigration bill.
Rep. Mazzoli (D) and Sen. Simpson (R) come up with a immigration enforcement act that would secure the borders and go after people and businesses who hired illegal aliens.

But many liberal Democrats called the bill racist and refused to support the bill.

The Democrats demanded an amendment to the bill that would award illegal aliens with amnesty for violating America's sovereignty.

The Republicans said no way Jose.

But we needed to secure our borders and start interior enforcement of our laws so Reagan spent over a year trying to convince Republicans to allow the Democrats to have their amnesty for criminals and it would only be a one time amnesty never to be repeated again.

In 1986 the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA or the Simpson–Mazzoli Act) was passed and signed into law.

To enforce the IRCA President Reagan appointed Harold Ezell to be incharge of the western region of the INS and he was doing such a good job securing the border and enforcing the IRCA that the communist, MALDEF, La Raza and the liberal Democrats yelled "racism" that Harold Ezel was forced to resign,

In the endgame the only part of the IRCA of 1986 that was enforced was the amnesty.

 

Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it.

The amnesty amendment to the ORCA was 100% all Democrats.

 

How many did the republican push through?

 

Reagan wasn’t a Democrat, lol