I Wanted to Know What White Men Thought About Their Privilege. So I Asked.

Interesting topic. Can anyone name one thing that only white males can accomplish here in the US?

 

According to some, the answer would be "racism".

 

What!

 

There is de facto and de jure racism. De jure is legal racism, which we ended in the 50's and 60's. De facto is the ordinary everyday racism we've all witnessed and that is alive and well.

 

Okay, please name one thing a person of color cannot accomplish due to racism.

 

They can accomplish anything, since we ended de jure discrimination. That doesn't mean the playing field is level. There are still de facto barriers in place. Last I checked, about 95% of the Fortune 500 companies were run by white males.

ETA: This isn't just some problem America has. The same is true in Japan. I don't think there are any laws against whites running Japanese companies, but it just doesn't happen.

 

Maybe the playing field is level, but the players are unequal.

 

Except we know racism is alive and well in this country. As long as there is racism, there are going to be barriers to entry. Again, this isn't unique to America. It's human nature to prefer people who look like you. We all do it. Some are worse than others. I freely admit that I have a thing against gays. I would vote for mayor Pete in a second, but there's just something about two grown men who are together that is totally disgusting and creepy and it's hard to take their relationship seriously. I've been trying to figure out for awhile where this came from. I wasn't raised particularly religious. I grew up in a progressive state. It's just a knee-jerk reaction I picked up along the way.

 

How would you demonstrate this statement?

Are all white male Trump supporters voicing unhappiness with people who arent trying to cast them in a negative light?

 

Certainly true for Chinese and Indian civilization which hadn't changed much in the thousand years before Western Europeans kicked them in the balls.

The ideas which led to the pre-eminence of the West include the following:

(1) The idea the natural world could be explained by natural law rather than mythology.

(2) The idea of progress.

Neither of these ideas occurred independently elsewhere and other civilizations stagnated once they achieved a stable level of social organization where they could feed the population and defend the borders.

 

Well said

 

What white privilege do I have, not any..

 

so you think we're all the same...

Did you know... we are very different and that many people of different races and ethnicity take pride in these differences... many of them are not white and don't want to be white suppose this would blow your mind because liberals often think they need to say we're all the same because if they don't they offend the blacks and other races... this of course in itself is also discrimination.

We are all gloriously different and that is completely fine, many take pride in their differences

 

So you are claiming that the exact amount of effort would produce different results based on color?

 

So you think there's a conspiracy of white people controlling delivers of power, and just average people that are white lie to you about it?

 

Interesting, I know some people which do similar comparison between the banking system and an ethnic group I wouldn't mention.

I wonder how the fact that some rich white dudes controle huge corporate empire does help the poor white farmer or laborer.

 

Nothing. There isn’t a single thing stopping anyone from accomplishing anything here.

 

I've been thinking about this whole White privilege thing for quite some time and there's other forms of so-called privilege in various other subdivisions.

It seems strongly based on myopia, narcissism and paranoia. And that's mixed with a lack of self-reflection.

So I'm going to break this down and explain each piece is this. First myopia.

Myopia is short-sightedness. And the shortsightedness comes and where people see a few people in charge of various different things end they see that they're all white or that they're all male therefore there has to be some sort of rigging in the game to get them there because we don't see women in high numbers in that position and we don't see black people in high numbers in those sorts of positions. So the only reason possible is that the system's rigged.

Here's where the narcissism comes in. And I'm not talking about the shameless self-promotion sort of narcissism I'm talking about the idea that the world revolves around you. That all these people are in some sort of cabal to keep you where you are. When is the reality is chances are if you work for somebody who's extremely successful if you don't interact with that somebody on a daily basis they probably don't even know you exist. to think that people think about you all the time or your race or anything of that nature is absurd.

Then we get into the paranoia. I remember having a speech teacher a few semesters ago she was a black woman and she talked about some of her past work experience. She mentioned some advertisement company she worked for and she was up for a promotion but somebody else was promoted instead. we're only hearing her side of the story so we don't know if there was eight people up for this promotion first it was just her in this other guy and she said it was because she was black she believed it was because she was black and when she went up against the company she accused of racism. She said it was the only reason and the rationale she gave for that was because they didn't say it wasn't.

This is paranoia to think people are in league against you to try and keep you from succeeding is absolutely paranoid.

The other side of this coin is lack of self-reflection. I've been fired from jobs I've been passed over for promotions and maybe it's just my nature but anytime that happens I asked why. Most of the time people would tell me. One job I was fired from was a fleet mechanic for a construction company it was my very first job out of school. I was the only white person there. My foreman was Hispanic all my co-workers were Hispanic I could have believed that it was because I didn't speak Spanish though I did a little bit. I could have believed that it was because I was white but I didn't asked. And the foreman describe very clearly mistakes I had made and they were mistakes I shouldn't have made.

I was mad I wanted that place to burn town because they dared to fire my magnificent ass but after thinking about it and reflecting on it for a couple of years I realized they were right to fire me and because they fired me my work ethic became better at the next place I worked I did better I even got promoted.

Something I noticed within my generation (millennials) they do not take criticism well. They seem extremely self-absorbed. And the odd thing about it is learning from my mistakes has made me really a valuable commodity within the working class. I've been told multiple times by people I've worked for that they can't believe I am the age I am and I have the work ethic that I do. And I'm sitting here thinking can work ethic I have should be the bare minimum.

So when it comes to privilege, you become privileged as it were if you first take pride in your appearance have a good ethic and have self reflection when you've done something wrong or poorly. That's it that's the privilege.

That's the way I see it so when someone tells me to check my privilege I'm going to say no way. Advantages are taken not handed out. And I'll be damned if I hand mine out.

 

That's typically because of female privilege.

A woman working around children isn't strange at all a man working around children he's probably a predator.

 

What white privilege is, in my experience is work ethic combined with self-reflection.

White privilege is heading to work for everything not being seen as the poor little victim that needs help and guidance effort placed on their success.

It's the desire to succeed from within.

When they want you to check that privilege he want you to act like them. meaning they want you to be self-centered and say why isn't the world served to me on a silver platter.

The people who talk about privilege are the ones who are too lazy to pump and get it.

Never ever ever check your privilege advantages are to be exploited. This has been the way of human success since the dawn of our species. The people who survived were the people who took their survival into their own hands instead of the people who sat around and waited for someone else to do it.

That's privileged that's what they're talking about.

The Bible even talks about this it says do not cast your pearls before swine.

 

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And ironically women have higher rates of domestic violence towards children.

Also seems to be a lot more women getting caught banging students.

 

Well something I find interesting is how we're all the same and we should all be treated equally except for in this regard and a few other things. It's male privilege to be a CEO of a national Bank but the vast majority of males don't get to be that so vast majority of males don't have male privilege. Ben however isn't female privilege to work in safe air-conditioned environments while men have an exponentially higher probability of workplace accidents or death.

It's not female privilege that most garbage collectors are male most murder victims are male most rape victims are male.


Privilege isn't about an advantage you have over somebody else. It's about more the person complaining about the privilege. Most of the time the people doing this complaining don't really work in a job where they would be under privileged. There are typically journalists and college professors, who ironically got their jobs because of their victim status.

So talked about this sort of thing is all about getting views and clicks and noticed. The people who it appeals to are the people who work in the same dead-end job their entire life and blame the world because they didn't have the initiative to go to acquire new skills or take the responsibilities of being an entrepreneur or a upper management type person.

Basically when you hear about privilege from somebody who talks for a living what you're hearing is neer-do-wells spreading neerdowellism two others who are vulnerable to it.

And you may ask why. individually I think they're motivated by the concept that misery loves company, and why these people are being manipulated into this is because due to circumstances in our public policy some neerdowells have achieved some success. and to try and steal yours away from you is envy. They despise your success because of the way you succeeded.

So when somebody tells me that I'm privileged you damn right I am. Privileged to have been smart enough to be humble and to not just be centered on myself.

If they demand I check my privilege I tell them to rot in hell. I'll never check my privilege it is it advantage that I used to get what I want. And if that's unfair to you sucks to be you.

 

Father a white child.

 

The have been explosive advances in civilization during different periods. Two that come to mind are the development of democracy in classical antiquity and the second being everything that happened during the European renaissance. Both came about in places where large populations were concentrated, both populations also happened to be white. I don't really see race being a factor as much as the distillation of the ideas of many, many people. It was more a matter of geography than demography. If you look at the world today it is still very much this way and I don't mean some sort of white dominance but that such advances most often occur in small densely populated areas. Where civilization stands today is due mostly to those explosive periods of the past, keeping in mind that it could have been any race it just happened to be whites. One should also understand that from classical antiquity to the present is a brief moment in infinity and not at all long enough to be absolutely right about anything.