Black family racially profiled while visiting Nike store in Santa Monica

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  1. arborville

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    Your numbers are not persuasive. There were apparently around 5,000 non negligent homicides and there are 40 million black people in the country. That evidence shows an extremely low proportion of murder. You've beat that stats horse. It's wobbling, yet you think it's getting you somewhere.

     
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    How do you know they're racists who are playing a game? Perhaps they believe they're being harassed because of there race. In some cases, they could be right.
     
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    Tasteful levity ... :applause:.

     
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    They're not my numbers, they came from the FBI
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've never singled out a member on this board as being crazy. A few politicians, yes, but fellow members, no.
     
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    It's not the source that I'm questioning. It's your failure to acknowledge that the proportions demonstrate how rare violent crime relative to the entire black population. Your evidence counters your argument.

     
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    Huh? 53% of the murders in this country come from 12% of the population. If we're talking about murders being committed by people under 18 years of age, then that percentage shoots up to 60.6%

    I'm beginning to get a better grasp of what Matt was referring to with his profile.
     
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    Has anyone told Colin Kapernick?
     
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    ummm...I ain't Carlos. But..ok...how about you go dig up if you think this have happened to white families. Get moving.
     
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    If there were 5,000 mega lottery winners in 2018 and 50% of them were black, would that mean that black people are likely to be rich? Of course not, to people who understand numbers and are capable of logical analysis. You're using the same faulty logic. The rest of us can focus and put numbers into perspective. For you the word profile is like someone shouting squirrell.

     
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    So easy to avoid crap like this.... Of course, I don't assume this article got everything correct, but this should have been resolved at the door of the store. The manager has a right to ask to see a receipt (if she cannot take the 2 minutes to ask her checkout people if anybody sold that guy a basketball) and the customer should produce it without screaming 'racial profiling'. Problem solved. Costco does this every day for every customer, although that is an unusual place to shop anyway.

    If they suspect they are being targeted, they can make their case in the courts.

    No winners here...
     
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    Its nice to see you can see reason.
     
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    I'm a very reasonable guy.... once you get to know me... :)
     
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    Where is the proof of racism?

    Ok, so the manager accused someone of shop lifting.....were there any racial slurs used?

    This is a case of imaginary racism.
     
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    Racism, Schmacism....who cares?

    If you are accused of something and you know you didn't do it then what is the big deal?

    I was in pharmacy not too long ago and I went to the bathroom while I was there. Right in the middle of my "business" someone started banging on the door. They said they were security. So I finished up and went to the door. There were two BLACK security guards there.

    They said the pharmacist, who was asian, told them I had bought some syringes and went into the bathroom. Instead of yelling "racism!", I asked the security guards if they wanted me to empty my pockets? Or was there anyway I could help them?

    Why did I do this? The first reason was I knew I wasn't shooting up and had no syringes. The second reason was I am an adult.

    There is no reason to scream racism if you are accused of something you did not do. When I offered to help, the security guards knew I wasn't up to anything like shooting up drugs. They apologized. I told them it was OK and I bet they have to deal with all kinds of things on the job.

    The lesson is to act like an adult. No need to scream racism because your feelings got hurt.
     
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    I generally agree with that, but that's not to say the manager in this case acted properly, because she didn't (if you believe the article). Because she was fired, I'll assume her story didn't impress her bosses either...
     
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    She was fired because of bad press for Nike. So now black shoplifters can more easily get away with it. They know that if a manager accuses them they can scream racism. No proof necessary.
     
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    Good argument IF they had been shoplifters...

    There is no store/company policy in the world that requires their managers to follow shoppers outside of the store (off the property).....
     
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    Do you really want me to post stories of white people being the victim of blacks? Do you know how many VIOLENT stories I can post when all the race baiters have is a basketball?
     
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    If 53% of the murders in this country come from one group and people who understand numbers believe that's meaningless, then what was the purpose of Matt creating a thread where 1 person in CA did something that probably had no racial bias behind it? You know damn well he was trying to use a single event, which should have been harmless, to paint all white people as oppressors and all blacks as victims because that is what he does in all his posts.

    So as a person who understand numbers and is capable of logical analysis, please explain what the purpose of this thread was because no one here gives a crap about a person who was asked to produce a receipt because that could have happened to anyone.

    And since you want to paint yourself as being capable of logical analysis, maybe you can explain what Matt meant when he said the person was profiled. What is the profile of a black person.? Matt has dodged and deflected repeated requests to describe what the profile is for a black person even though he used that word in post #1 when he created this thread. You know, I know, Matt knows, we all know that Matt used that word because he thinks the profile for black people is negative which would then lead to him being asked why does he have a negative impression of blacks? Matt likes to play the board's race baiter and it backfired on him because he's showing his true colors.
     
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    Technically they are not shop lifting until they walk out of the store. No one knows the full circumstances here. The pharmacy I was in was in a rough part of town. I took that into consideration.

    Just like they say "shop lifting hurts everyone". The mature thing to do is to help out by showing a receipt. By screaming racism these folks are making shop lifting easier to get away with.
     
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    I agree... that's my instinct as well... I would have shown the receipt the second a manager followed me out of the store....

    BUT the QUESTION of this thread is - Why would she have suspected these 2 people (shopping with an 18 month old) of shoplifting in the first place? If she was monitoring their behavior in the store, might she have seen them get a picture of the boy with the basketball in the store?? Hardly the standard behavior of people planning on stealing it....
     
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    Many stores have someone at the door looking at receipts.
    Ever go to Frys.
     
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    Who knows what the circumstances were? Accusing someone of racism without proof is as bad as accusing someone of stealing without proof....perhaps even worse.
     
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    And it's not fair to white degenerates.
    They can't scream it.
     

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